I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably sure bodylifts up to 2 inches are allowed. As for side intrusion bars, Sierra's don't have any. Looks like you pissed off the wrong coppa at the wrong time. So what did you do to draw attention to yourself??
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| Author: | mcwilly [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | defects in nsw |
i got defected today and just wondering if body lift is legal in nsw? they also go me for side intrusion bar height being altered due to lift??? as far as i knew they dont even have them lol. going to see engineer but would be good to know first |
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| Author: | hooki [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
dunno about body lift in nsw, but the side intrusion bar height thing is bs, leaf sprung sierra's dont even have them from what i remember. |
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| Author: | Rockhopper [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
I could be wrong, but I'm reasonably sure bodylifts up to 2 inches are allowed. As for side intrusion bars, Sierra's don't have any. Looks like you pissed off the wrong coppa at the wrong time. So what did you do to draw attention to yourself??
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| Author: | mcwilly [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
Yea I didn't think they had any. I think they were having a blitz it was a rbt style setup with defects they pulled anything modified. I was just cruising on speed limit. Thanks for your help |
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| Author: | felix [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
Sounds like you got done by a pissed off clueless copper. Similar to the one trying to tell me that a missing intake pipe is a performance engine modification. |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
yes, no intrusion bars. the copper may not have been pissed off, it all depends if the vehicle is 'presentable'. if its missing mudflaps, barwork for example they are going to pay more attention to the vehicle. what is the body lift made from? |
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| Author: | brendan [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
whats a side intrusion bar? |
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| Author: | royce [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
whats the exact ADR for side intrusion? ther is no way a sierra would be allowed to be exempt from it, I have always had a thought that perhaps the sill falls into teh correct zone for side intrusion, and there is no doubt that lifting it does affect it, remember its not up to the cop to know whether its right or not but now its up to you to prove him wrong, find out where the range is and get the tape out 
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| Author: | mcwilly [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
Body lift is steel blocks. Yea it just sucks there are cars that should be off the road and they pick on a poor sierra. Can't go anywhere in Newcastle with out police stopping you. That's in any car modded or not |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
Move to Brissie then 
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| Author: | royce [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
mcwilly wrote: Body lift is steel blocks. Yea it just sucks there are cars that should be off the road and they pick on a poor sierra. Can't go anywhere in Newcastle with out police stopping you. That's in any car modded or not
why dont yuou just go get it approved then you can tell the cops to go jump. afterall they are just as worried your bodylift is made from paper mache and your body is going to eject itself across a pedestrian crossing and squash a little old lady who is also a war veteran and aboriginal and gay and muslim. then they could of jsut told you to carry on and pick up the next shitter to come through |
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| Author: | Trojan [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
What some don't understand is that an engineer certificate doesn't exempt you from defects. My Suzuki has been defected for things which are clearly written on the engineers report. It's not the Polices responsibilioty to proove the vehicle is unroadworthy, it's the owners responsibility to proove that it is roadworthy. So if they think something isn't right, they'll just note it down on a defect. Afterall, they aren't engineers and how are they to know as to whether it's been changed since it was engineered. So on that, go take the thing to an Engineer, Athol Mullins is fairly good and fair to deal with. If your bodylift is steel with appropriate graded bolts, you shouldn't have to many dramas. royce wrote: whats the exact ADR for side intrusion?
ADR 29. There were exemptions on catergories of certain vehicles up until about 1996/97 for this ADR, assuming that the Sierra is under those catergories, it kind of ties in with the fitment of intrusion bars into SJ80's |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
if you do get defected and you protest the claims you still lose the points dont you? |
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| Author: | Trojan [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
Zook_Fan wrote: if you do get defected and you protest the claims you still lose the points dont you?
We don't lose points for all defects in NSW. It's 3 points for brake, steering, seating and seat belt defects. 3 points for bullbar protrusions and the same for causing excessive noise and smoke. All other defects don't carry any demerits, but if you drive a vehicle in breach of a defect notice, they'll get you for that to (1 for minor defect, 3 for major defect) |
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| Author: | appsie [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
sucks that you got a defect mate but it happens i guess.Could of been tyres and lift too i guess. I was pretty sure that you could have 2" b/lift legally without report and as for the intrusion bars see how you go but im pretty sure if you take it to get cleared they will know the rules check off the couple MINOR things and your good to go again. My zuk is engineered for suspension,bodylift,wheels etc but i still worry about getting a defect,My EXO is gonna be my downfall and am considering removing it to help. |
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| Author: | wardy [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
were abouts in newy was this? i havnt had any troubles with the police iv been pulled over twice i didnt even have p plates on and i was driving round with no head lights on lol i have a 2inch body lift 3 inch suspension 31s that hang out of the wells and no front or rear bars on. both times they just said get some p's on and have a nice night .... not even a breath test lol =D |
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| Author: | mcwilly [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
Near king street macas. Spoke to an engineer and he believes my car is fine to pass now but can't do a report till next week. Just needed mud flaps.so gonna take it in see if they will clear it for me |
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| Author: | magnat [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
The Golden rule is If it ain't factory... Its a Mod... If you do get an Inspection officer on the wrong side of bed they can issue you a defect from " Incorrect Speaker location" "Magic Tree hanging off rear Vision Mirror" I have heard of people being defected for even the slightest mod that you and I don't even considered a Mod.. Like removing the Induction noise Bottles off the Air intake... (Those Bottle shaped things that are designed to reduce intake noise) On my last Ride I had a 2 12 inch Sub enclosure in the boot and it was anchored down and I was informed that if I had not secured it to the vehicle it was classified as dangerous cargo and an insecure load and was defectable... |
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| Author: | Trojan [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
appsie wrote: I was pretty sure that you could have 2" b/lift legally without report
It never has been the case in NSW, always needed an engineers report for it. I think the idea that you didn't has evolved from some of the great internet wisdom out there. |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
Trojan wrote: I think the idea that you didn't has evolved from some of the great internet wisdom out there.
Ahhh, the great 'he said - she said' wisdom we all love to spread so much |
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| Author: | appsie [ Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: defects in nsw |
well there you go, i have always just listened to my uncle from when he was working at ARB and always talking to the engineer who travelled thru. My zuk is done but my hilux isnt engineered for it,thanks for the info anyway but as said there is that much information floating around and 50 stories what do you believe. |
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