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Author:  azzas15 [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:48 am ]
Post subject:  Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

Hi All,

After struggling taking my zook apart on the weekend a vast majority of bolt are rusted and has resulted in a few snapped heads.

I'm now considering ditching the old door hinge screws and maybe replacing with stainless to avoid rusting. Ill also replace a bunch of others as putting the rusted bolts back would be pointless.

Will stainless bolts screws cause any problems?

Wish someone made a bolt kit for the zooks would make my life easy :)

Cheers,
Azzas

Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

Don't do it. Mild steel and stainless will react against each other.

Just replace your bolts with new zinc plated ones, and chuck fom anti-sieze on the threads.

Author:  azzas15 [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 1:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

Thanks mate.

Ill see if I can get something with a hex head. Not a fan of the Phillips head to many have stripped.

Author:  SierraDan [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

I use stainless ones with anti seize. No issues. (Not saying Fatzook is wrong, just that I have no issues.)

Author:  droverdave [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

In theory they are dissimilar enough to cause corosion if an electrolyte is present (ie salty water).

so you are best off just getting zinc plated steel ones, they are much much cheaper than stainless anyway....

This pretty much sums it up.

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Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:11 pm ]
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Also, if the staino bolts DO bind up in the thread, they are more likely to snap due to their lower grade and higher brittleness.

Author:  buzbox [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:47 pm ]
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When the next time you plan on pulling it apart?

BTW. There are complete bolt kits available on eBay.

Author:  azzas15 [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

Might stick to a standard bolt then. Is this the bolt kit you are talking about?

http://bit.ly/16VOlEe

Don't ever plan on pulling it apart after its painted but never know when ill need to.

Cheers

Author:  just_cruizin [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:08 pm ]
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That's just a generic kit. You can get Socket head bolts with a with wide head similar to the standard phillips head versions but these too have issues as when you torque them up you can round the socket thus making removal a bitch. Don't use hex head bolt though they look shit house.

Author:  azzas15 [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

Sorry what I meant was just a standard bolt for a socket. That's the only kit I could find so not sure what else to search for.

Author:  just_cruizin [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

A socket head bolt are the ones you use an Allen key for

Author:  SierraDan [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:06 pm ]
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Arent they an Allen head?

Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 6:51 pm ]
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SierraDan wrote:
Arent they an Allen head?



They are called socket head cap screws.

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Dome head cap screw.

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Countersunk head cap screw.

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Author:  SierraDan [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

Cool. Learn something new everyday!

Author:  azzas15 [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hinge bolts should I use stainless?

Ahh ok I'm getting myself confused.. I was just talking about a standard bolt thanks for the information above really helps.

The dome ones look good but will they strip?

Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:16 pm ]
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azzas15 wrote:

The dome ones look good but will they strip?



No. I use the DHCS's (in Zinc'd mild steel) for doors all the time. Just get yourself a set of in-hex sockets for your 3/8" ratchet, and you'll never strip an allen head bolt again.
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Author:  31zook [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:35 am ]
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I think allot of the people who say their using stainless mean zinc.

Author:  want33s [ Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:48 am ]
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Fatzook wrote:

Dome head cap screw.

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More commonly referred to as a BUTTON HEAD CAP SCREW.

I used a lot of stainless BHCS's in Snow White. Installed them each with a dab of Coppertec anti-seize and they all came out easily 3 years later.

Stainless is more brittle than mild steel but if you use anti seize and only fit the right length bolts (IE: not too long so threads are exposed inside whatever panel) you won't have any dramas.

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