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Author:  sj70zuki [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  driving without doors
Will I get in trouble if I drive around without doors?
Author:  Suttmann [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Id go down to the local donut shop and ask a few of the regulars if I were you.
If your local cops say you can there is a perfect excuse if you get pulled over for it.
Author:  Reubs [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
sj70zuki wrote:
Will I get in trouble if I drive around without doors?

Yep - trouble will be when your wallet/phone/house key falls out of your pocket and out the door on the freeway, or when you go through a puddle and water splashes on you and your clothes become wet (not to mention if it rains), or when other motorists start to stare, lose concentration and accidentally side-swipe your car after seeing something so bizarre as someone driving without doors.

If it was legal (which it might well be) to do this and you did it then you will still be a magnet for cops just to pull you over to see if there is anything else 'strange' with your car which may or may not be illegal. The trick to not being pulled over is to conform and not stand out from thousands of other motorists you share the roads with.
Author:  SierraDan [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Good fun though.
Author:  just_cruizin [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Technically yes, but as Reubs said you will draw attention thus getting a critical eye put over the whole thing. IMO no point if you're not rocking 33's +
Author:  alien [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Its not legal in WA or any state running NCOP... The rules basically state that if the vehicle came with it, you have to keep it.

I successfully argued to run half doors though, as the Holden Drover came out with factory half doors - just that mine will be cut lower than drover ones, but they don't need to know that so long as they approve it.
Author:  JrZook [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
alien wrote:
The rules basically state that if the vehicle came with it, you have to keep it.


Can you please point out where this ruling is for uneducated peps like myself?
Author:  alien [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Nope - i couldnt find it myself until i phoned my local DoT and spoke to someone in vehicle modifications... he said over the phone point blah blah note blah of blah document...

That's when i proposed half doors and he said that should be ok if it came out on a version of the vehicle (this would also apply if you asked to fit 16" rims on a sierra, because some variants came with 16s).

I've got the half doors approval in writing too.
Author:  JrZook [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:01 pm ]
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So did he quote you the ADRs that you were breaking?
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:27 pm ]
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We have recently had the same response from an engineer in Vic. If it came with doors, they have to be present.

I've driven with no doors quite a bit but I WAY prefer cut 1/2 doors.

Steve.
Author:  just_cruizin [ Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
So if that is true you can't remove your soft top either. Probably reads that if the manufacturer didn't design the item to be removed you can't. Probably quicker to take doors off then a soft top
Author:  SierraDan [ Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Half doors definitely feel safer to drive around in and wheel in.
No doors on the beach is cool though.
Author:  droverdave [ Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:44 am ]
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The other issue is, a police man doesn't need to know for sure your car has illegal mods, he can just say "hmm i think thats illegal, but im not sure, but just to be sure here have a defect notice, go and take your car to the big mean deparment of transport inspection station where they will go over it with a fine tooth comb, find all the problems, and then take your car off the road untill they are fixed"

You dont want to give them a reason to pull you over.
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
You're in VIC right drover? Surely the process is a requirement for a RWC, with a cursory check by vicroads to ensure the nominated items have been rectified? That's the experience of most of us.

In any case, there seems to have been a change that has brought every state into line and doors are definitely required.

As I've said, I think 1/2 doors are more desirable than doorless anyway, especially in Vic.
Author:  mud_muncher [ Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Gwagensteve wrote:
You're in VIC right drover? Surely the process is a requirement for a RWC, with a cursory check by vicroads to ensure the nominated items have been rectified? That's the experience of most of us.

In any case, there seems to have been a change that has brought every state into line and doors are definitely required.

As I've said, I think 1/2 doors are more desirable than doorless anyway, especially in Vic.


I know its a different fish, but when I took my LJ in for a RWC it was not required to have doors (it has soft doors stock). The problem was more that fiberglass is not a legal subsitute for a floor apparently :roll: .
Author:  Mike_B [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 8:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
I spose if you really want to drive without doors,....you could get a moke, but that might not be popular on this forum. I have had a ride in one with the top off and it was very airy.
Author:  sideways [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Mike_B wrote:
I spose if you really want to drive without doors,....you could get a moke, but that might not be popular on this forum. I have had a ride in one with the top off and it was very airy.


Ever heard of an LJ? :lol:
Author:  Marko_SJ [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
I was going to take the doors off my LWB because they rattled.

Doorless would have been good.
Author:  Daves4wd [ Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
I've seen a jk wrangler (I know it's not a zook) driving down the road no doors or roof.
Author:  alien [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
I drove mine around with no doors and no roof a few times too.... doesn't mean it was legal =)

Feels like you're driving an oversized quad bike.
Author:  SierraDan [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
What quads have you ridden??
Author:  alien [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
It's the closest i can come to describing the "openness" of it =)
Author:  sideways [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
^ It doesn't count if you didn't fold the windscreen down. :D
Author:  jono165 [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Daves4wd wrote:
I've seen a jk wrangler (I know it's not a zook) driving down the road no doors or roof.


Wranglers have factory removable doors that require no tools, the factory handbook specifically mentions that the doors are removable which is how they get around with no doors.
Author:  Parry [ Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Just tell the cops it's a jeep, near every other clueless person refers to sierras as jeeps lol

But anyways as people have said all it takes is a cop to not like it, don't mater if you can or you can't,

I got asked by a cop for a engineers cert for a chrome muffler that added no performance or noise, was just Crome, I asked what happens if my muffler rusted & fell off did I need a cert for the new one... Had him stumped, wasn't on a sierra btw lol
Author:  Luhrsy68 [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
I understand the real issue relates to the reverse mirrors. On a Jeep the mirrors are fixed to the A Pillar and because of this the doors can be removed. My Sierra has the mirrors mounted on the doors and because of this the doors may not be removed.
Just my 2cents worth....

Luhrsy
Author:  sideways [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Screw a motorbike mirror into the door hinge threads. Problem solvered.
Author:  alien [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:42 pm ]
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^^ i did this - it sucked. The MB mirrors vibrate around and are quite small - add to that they don't fold in, so if you're 4wding and you hit the mirror on something you're either snapping it off or bending it bigtime.

Make some mirror relocation brackets that pick up the hinge screws.
Author:  sideways [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
Get some decent bike mirrors and take them off when you go offroad. :wink:
Author:  losfer [ Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: driving without doors
simple answer is no , even a broken doorstrap is deemed as "unroadworthy".
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