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Author:  jonfromhamilton [ Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Waking up a sleeping Sierra
Ok lets say you are out in the bush alone and you put your Sierra on it's side
you don't have the manpower to put it back up by yourself jus tlifting it with your winch bitch so how do you do it?
I've thought about running something through a pulley and then up over the car using the winch, or using a high life jack but I thought I would post it up here and see what everyone's experiences, success or failure have been.
Author:  sideways [ Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Waking up a sleeping Sierra
jonfromhamilton wrote:
you don't have the manpower to put it back up by yourself jus tlifting it with your winch bitch so how do you do it?


It was easy enough to tip my LJ81 back onto its wheels with just a friend and I. That was pivoting on the sill and back wheel though, front wheel was in a massive hole, hence flop.

It's a pretty open question, what you'd do would vary massively depending on the car, it's modifications, the location, the equipment you've got and the circumstances. Eg if you've layed a exo'd Sierra over in a forest and you've got a highlift or hand winch then you're set. If you've run into a ditch and flopped a stock soft top on some outback track with nothing to winch off (both terrain or car) and no recovery gear then you're pretty well stuffed.

Obviously accidents happen but don't do anything silly enough to end up on your side (or bogged) if you're by yourself.

If you do flop it, when you get it upright drain the oil out of the cylinders or you'l do a monley and blow your engine. :thefinger: Check oil hasn't drained through the PCV into the airbox otherwise you might suck in a lung full and kill the motor. Also check all your fluids (brake fluid!) and top up as necessary.
Author:  just_cruizin [ Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:40 pm ]
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Depends on the flop. Some I've had could be done by one person, some have taken six. I would say in a treed area with something to pull off a tree protector or 2 a highlift and a chain or winch extension strap would get you out of most situations
Author:  jonfromhamilton [ Sat Dec 07, 2013 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Waking up a sleeping Sierra
I had thought of running the winch from the front around a pulley block and then back to the ca rbut thought it would just twist the car around in the dirt
how do you drain oil out of the engine cylinders?
Author:  missmyljdaze [ Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Waking up a sleeping Sierra
jonfromhamilton wrote:
how do you drain oil out of the engine cylinders?


remove the spark plugs, spin the motor over with the starter- hang a rag over the plug holes to catch any oil that is spat out
[it can go all over the place]
Like sideways said- dont forget to check your PCV valve, hose and aircleaner box for excess oil and remove any you find.

refit plugs-n-stuff and away you go.

stephen
Author:  3cyl [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Waking up a sleeping Sierra
Pfff... 4strokes.
Author:  Red89 [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Waking up a sleeping Sierra
missmyljdaze wrote:
jonfromhamilton wrote:
how do you drain oil out of the engine cylinders?


remove the spark plugs, spin the motor over with the starter- hang a rag over the plug holes to catch any oil that is spat out
[it can go all over the place]
Like sideways said- dont forget to check your PCV valve, hose and aircleaner box for excess oil and remove any you find.

refit plugs-n-stuff and away you go.

stephen

With the number of times I have rolled generally if the car has only been layed over for around 5 or so minutes I have always just cranked it over a few times till it started and then let it idle for a bit till the smoke clears which generally doesnt take too long. Not sure if its correct or not but I have never had to pull the plugs.
Author:  SierraDan [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:33 pm ]
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I just let the cars sit for a little bit.
But i do a check start. Just give it a quick flick, if it doesnt sound normal pull the plugs. I've never had a smokey exhaust after a roll with my G13BA's though.
Author:  Red89 [ Sun Dec 08, 2013 12:56 pm ]
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Same procedure I follow, and yep I have only ever had at most 1 or 2 small puffs of smoke before its cleared itself.
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:11 am ]
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From the winch to a block and back to the car is the way I've always done it. When you run the line back you want to attach it to a point on the high side of the car if possible and the tree trunk protector nice and low on the tree.

My G16a made a hell of a smoke screen when it went over. After pulling the plugs there was a bit of oil in the top, a rag over the holes is a great idea.
Author:  jonfromhamilton [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Waking up a sleeping Sierra
I have a g16b and it ran fine when the car was mostly on it's side but just wanted to have some idea if and when it goes very sideways
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Waking up a sleeping Sierra
Of course you'd never be out 4WDing on your own though would you eh Jon :D

The temptation when righting a car is to hook up to the chassis rail, but that's far from ideal as it will tend to drag the car along rather than right it. The best option is to run the rope/strap around the car (even right around and back to the chassis rail) so it kind of unwinds as the car rights. this way it's always pulling from the highest point on the car.

If I was by myself (and in a car as straight as yours) I reckon I'd tie the front of the car off to somewhere in the opposite direction to the pull so try and prevent the car being dragged towards the snatch block rather than righting.

The thing you really want to avoid is dragging the car along the ground, you want it to pull on the spot, not skid along the ground.

Steve.
Author:  jonfromhamilton [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:13 pm ]
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what about a high lift steve?
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:23 pm ]
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Nope. I can't think of a way you'd right a car with a death stick without a ridiculously complex setup involving drag chains and stuff that that would probably kill you.

You'd have to hook the hilift to the door bar which would screw it up, and you'd find the jack wouldn't go high enough to get the car back on its wheels, and then you'd be screwed.

Steve.
Author:  jonfromhamilton [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:42 pm ]
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What about a trebuchet?
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:44 pm ]
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:D

You could probably use a truck ratchet strap in a pinch. The big, heavy truck ratchet straps are super useful.

Steve.
Author:  Reubs [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Waking up a sleeping Sierra
Gwagensteve wrote:
:D
You could probably use a truck ratchet strap in a pinch. The big, heavy truck ratchet straps are super useful.

Yep, but a friend and I have used a 2500kg Ancra ratchet strap in conjunction with a small ratchet puller to pull a stripped out Vitara shell onto it's side to remove the diffs redneck-style and that was not as easily done as was first thought. You can't pull a strap very far before the drum is full and you need to reset it to 'winch' further. I always have at least a pair of these in the car but they are more useful for other tasks.

A small handwinch is excellent for righting a rolled Suzuki however and very easy to use on your own. I usually carry one.
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