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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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Ok so this afternnon I took a drive down to a localy recomended engineer and picked his brain about my zook and a few other things.
Here are the questions I asked.
Q1 What is the max suspention lift?
A. In N.S.W. on a "standard" Suzuki Sierra no more then 6" total this can be made up of a few different things like springs, SPOA, shackles or RUF But no more then 6" on standard Diffs and Standard frame.
Non standard (different diffs, frame mods.....) will be on a case to case baises.
Q2 What are limitations on body lifts?
A. All body lifts are looked down on. They dont like to do them. But 2" is normaly ok if they are done right.
Q3 What is the biggest tire I can run ?
A. 31s pass everytime regardless. ANYTHING bigger will need bigger diffs. He said he has passed 35s on a LWB that had landcruiser 60s diffs under it. 33s are the biggest he would pass on hiluxs diffs.
But to add to that the diffs would have to pass inspection first.
Q4 When doing any engine swop what will make it pass?
A. He said all engine swops are on a case to case basis. The more common the swop the easier it will be to pass it. But what they look for is.
#1 is all the eco stuff on it (cat, 02 sensors .....)
#2 It is mounted as stong or stronger then what that motor is in its factory application.
#3 It is a safe upgrade in power (meaning its not a V8 in a mini kind of deal. Anything that is over double the power is seen as overkill and will be hard to pass.
#4 All the wiring is done correctly and safely.
#5 That all addaptor plates or convertions are done in a safe or stronger then factory way.
#6 It must pass a sound and exhaust test for that year model of engine
#7 It can not be leaking any fluids.
Q5 What are the costs to get a inspection done.
A. It all depends on time spent. Most engine swop/susspention inspections are around the $750 to $900 mark
Hope that helps some you out.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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will yours pass engineering?
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:26 pm |
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No not as it is. I have to loose the wheels and loose the shackles. My engine will pass if I put the standard airbox back on it. everything else is ok.
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ninjadaniel
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 365 Location: Brisbane
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Engineering for engine conversion here in QLD is $150 + $50 for additional mods, eg seats, brakes. Contact me for details if you wish.
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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That almost makes it worth the drive... Would a QLD cert pass in N.S.W.????
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:58 pm |
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No because we are not QLD...
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:07 pm |
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a mod plate is not engineering.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:39 pm |
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qld has pretty specific rules on what engine can be passed in what car for a mod plate though, after that it gets dear
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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To clearify when I said mod plate i was talking about the addapter plate used to mount the engine to the trans.
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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SPOA is fine but they don't like body lifts. When body lifts are a very easy mod that don't effect to much in comparasion to SPOA with steering changes, induced stresses etc etc etc. Seems strange. It's very easy to do some mods very wrong yet others are less likely to be approved.
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Dee
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 222 Location: Sunshine Coast
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just_cruizin wrote: SPOA is fine but they don't like body lifts. When body lifts are a very easy mod that don't effect to much in comparasion to SPOA with steering changes, induced stresses etc etc etc. Seems strange. It's very easy to do some mods very wrong yet others are less likely to be approved.
yep. its all fucked.
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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Now go ask a different engineer those same questions, then another.
I'll guarentee you'll get different answers each time
You'll soon realise why all the shit that has been going on in NSW has raised it's ugly head.
He sounds like one of the "easier engineers"
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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Trojan wrote: Now go ask a different engineer those same questions, then another.
I'll guarentee you'll get different answers each time
You'll soon realise why all the shit that has been going on in NSW has raised it's ugly head.
He sounds like one of the "easier engineers"
X2
Athol Mullen a good engineer (possiable one of the best in aus) He passed my truck with 31s, 50mm BL and 50mm suspension about a year ago. $250 for the first item and $50 for everything after that. I paid $350 for my truck to be passed.
Im not sure that ge will pass the 31s anymore...
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:29 pm |
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He said 31s would be ok with a zook a few months back...
I agree, I have not heard a bad thing about him.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:32 pm |
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I avn't been in contact with him for a while... twas just what i heard... He will only pass 33s on lux diffs, now i know that for a fact 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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What tests do they do to approve bigger tyres?
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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Brake test is the big one. But other then that I have no idea...
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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 Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:57 am |
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Ohhh and the tread cant stick out over 10mm
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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Wouldn't pass mine with 31s but did do spoa bl seats wrap bar etc etc
_________________ 1996 sierra + 2" body lift + SPOA conversion + ome
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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mcwilly
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 867 Location: nsw, newcastle
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Athol did mine. Was just after the new rules were stopped
_________________ 1996 sierra + 2" body lift + SPOA conversion + ome
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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Im sure there is good reason behind all of his claims and rules... 
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thompson_2986
Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 80 Location: Allambee
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[quote="v.w.dave"] 31s pass everytime regardless.
I just called a local engineer in vic and the max increase approved is 2 inches bigger than stock. Stocks are 26 inches so that puts my 30's already over and out unless i upgrade axels etc.
Is all of vic like this ?? because that sucks
Wish i was in NSW
If not who should i call
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:31 pm |
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Think your self lucky, In qld we can only increase 15mm over standard.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:04 pm |
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we can do a 100mm lift with no engineering or mod plates. 
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