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Jonnozook
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm Posts: 8
Vehicle: 97 suzuki sierra injected 1.6L
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 Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:41 pm |
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Hey guys, just looking to see if anybody's come across this problem?? I've just finished installing a 97 baleno 2 coil, engine into my 97 sierra. I've been struggling with the wiring for about 2 weeks and no luck. I've got everything wired up but not getting any spark. The injectors are staying on all the time and the fuel pump wire (yellow/blue) is not eathing for the prime or while cranking. I've tryed shaving and moving the crank angle sensor in and out to change the air gap but no luck. I can't get any codes out because the engine check light won't flash and it's wired up ok and I've bridged the terminals. Need help guys it's driving me insane, any ideas would be muchly appreciated, cheers Jon.
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azzas15
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:43 pm Posts: 355
Vehicle: 89 Sierra Widetrack
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 Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:34 pm |
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Hi mate, First thing. I have the same engine and my fuel pump wire was pink I had an issue with the engine not having enough earth Apart from that I forgot to plug the ECU in at one stage took me half an hour to work that one out lol. And welcome 
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azzas15
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:43 pm Posts: 355
Vehicle: 89 Sierra Widetrack
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 Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:45 pm |
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 Sorry miss read it you talking about this one. Did you use the PJzook diagram?
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Jonnozook
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm Posts: 8
Vehicle: 97 suzuki sierra injected 1.6L
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:36 am |
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Cheers for the help, I started with PJzooks diagram and wired it all up. Then found a manual with the same diagram and I can't find anything different. I've wired up the 3 earths (black and black/orange) and run them straight to the battery earth to try and take that out of the equation. I'm starting to think either the ecu or the crank angle sensor is stuffed. I've checked the sensor resistance and it seems ok. The injectors are all earthing with the ignition on and even if I disconnect the crank sensor they still stay on.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:12 pm |
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Jonnozook wrote: I can't get any codes out because the engine check light won't flash and it's wired up ok and I've bridged the terminals. Does the engine light come on when the ignition is switched on? If not you have wiring issues or blown check light.
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Jonnozook
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm Posts: 8
Vehicle: 97 suzuki sierra injected 1.6L
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:26 pm |
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I haven't wired it up yet I'm just using a test light on it. Can't get anything out of it. Threw a crank angle sensor into it no luck with that. I'll go through the wiring again and check it. It seems like an earth problem.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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 Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:53 am |
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So you also have no fuel pump priming when the ignition is turned on? If that's the case then its back to wiring issues. Crank sensor wont affect the fuel pump priming pulse.
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Jonnozook
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm Posts: 8
Vehicle: 97 suzuki sierra injected 1.6L
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 Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:14 pm |
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That's what I was thinking, I'm still convinced it's an earth problem with the wiring or the ecu. I think a trip to the auto elec is in order
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Ruthless
Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:50 am Posts: 1049 Location: Brisvagas
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 Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:04 pm |
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Earth the power steering pump wire will start first go if its wired right had one do the same thing
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:44 am |
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Ruthless wrote: Earth the power steering pump wire will start first go if its wired right had one do the same thing So if that's the case and you had power steering with the ECU load wire connected, the engine would cut out every time there's a load on the PS??? That again points out to some wiring issues...
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Jonnozook
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm Posts: 8
Vehicle: 97 suzuki sierra injected 1.6L
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 Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:32 pm |
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Hooked the green/white wire to earth for the power steering, no change for anything
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:11 pm |
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#1. Hook up a permanent CEL as per the wiring diagram #2. Back probe all the ground connections in the ECU plug and check their continuity to the battery negative terminal. (Should be all less then ~5ohm) #3. Turn ignition on and back probe all ECU connections that should either have switched or constant 12V
If you have the right wiring diagram and the fuel pump is wired correctly (one terminal to switched 12V the other to the corresponding ECU pin) you should get the CEL on with the ignition and the priming pulse happening.
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Jonnozook
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm Posts: 8
Vehicle: 97 suzuki sierra injected 1.6L
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 Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:29 am |
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Hooked up the cel, checked for 12v at the black/white wire, white wire and red black all ok, 5 ohm's resistance out of the earths. Still nothing, went through and required everything, no luck. Ecu maybe??
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 6:56 pm |
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I'm having the same problem but mine will run then stall and won't start again. When it runs like a dream for like 10min . Sorry to brake into your thread but I'm desprate as well
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Jonnozook
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm Posts: 8
Vehicle: 97 suzuki sierra injected 1.6L
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 Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:54 pm |
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Crank angle sensor might be getting hot and cutting out. Check the resistance when it's cold then when it cuts out
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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 Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 3:21 am |
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5 ohms is too high for the earths, it should be nearly zero.
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Jonnozook
Joined: Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:59 pm Posts: 8
Vehicle: 97 suzuki sierra injected 1.6L
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 Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:00 pm |
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Computer was stuffed, all up and running now. Cheers for the help
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:49 pm |
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That's good u got that all soughted  I got mine soughted it was just a dodgy plug
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azzas15
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:43 pm Posts: 355
Vehicle: 89 Sierra Widetrack
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 Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:27 pm |
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