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David-mohr122
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:53 pm Posts: 43
Vehicle: Suzuki vitara 94 g16a
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 Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:28 pm |
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Does anyone know of a site that sell a bracket or where do they go as the best spot has a snorkle pipe running threw it
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headwerkn

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Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:21 pm Posts: 34 Location: Northern Tasmania
Vehicle: '93 Vitara JX LWB
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Try giving Pirana Offroad/Serious Suzi a call. There's a video on YouTube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbWg0SkVHg - where they install a second aux/winch assist battery where the coolant expansion tank usually sits... as far as I can tell, that gets relocated alongside the washer fluid tank. The 'Pimp That Zook' series of videos make for good watching, even if they're a little too much talking about products and not enough detail on installing them. Apparently they spent $25K modifying that JLX LWB. Crazy... Cheers, Ben.
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David-mohr122
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:53 pm Posts: 43
Vehicle: Suzuki vitara 94 g16a
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 Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:57 am |
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Yeah just pretty sure they have a g16b on if which is a pain Due to the air intake going in a diffrent direction just want to Make sure before I buy a 200 dollar bracket
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headwerkn

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Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:21 pm Posts: 34 Location: Northern Tasmania
Vehicle: '93 Vitara JX LWB
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Ah sorry, figured it was a 16V like my own '93. For the benefit of anyone else reading.... 8V G16A 16V G16B  I'm figuring the space in front of the airbox is too shallow to take any standard 12V lead-acid battery. You could probably find a LiPo type battery they retrofit into racecars, etc. to save weight, but they're not cheap. Not really any other obvious spots, is there? You could try and relocate the airbox down to the front of the vehicle to clear the space in front of the firewall, but would be very fiddly. I'd still give Piranha a call, they might have have a solution... alternatively consider locating the 2nd battery in a box somewhere in the cabin. I actually plan on doing both; 2nd smallish SLA under bonnet and larger Deep Cycle under the false floor created by a rear drawer system I hope to have completed this year. Should be more than enough power for a winch, fridge etc.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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 Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:28 pm |
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Alternative would be a solid/gel cell type battery like the optimas which you can install on their side.
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David-mohr122
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:53 pm Posts: 43
Vehicle: Suzuki vitara 94 g16a
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 Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:46 pm |
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Yeah like one of my friends has a yellow top optima under his seat But currently have my tool set under one and a first aid kit Like I was looking at it more today I only have I think a 330 cca ( cold cranking amps) And just saw if my friends larher battery would fit , and my motor has a diffrent Air box like , the filter is on top of the carby , rather then before so I have a bit if flexibility like I could get a Small battery eg my current starter battery should fit there if not I'm ripping out The back seats for a draw system so I can hide a battery there it's just up In the air at the moment , but thanks for the advice guys
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zoukshin
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:20 am Posts: 320
Vehicle: 2004GV + bar + custom mods
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If you can fit a tray (15$ for a small one at SCA) and quickly fab some brackets to support it, optimas d34 on their side are a great setup. Just finished mine, tight fit in the GV2 after moving stuff around a bit, but works great.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 6:58 pm |
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There is actually more room in a GV for a second battery. Vitara have a very shallow and tight engine bay and there is not a lot you can easily relocate to fit a normal 2nd battery.
Oh and note the 2 engine bays in the pics above are left hand drive vitara's
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David-mohr122
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:53 pm Posts: 43
Vehicle: Suzuki vitara 94 g16a
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 Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:23 pm |
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It's highly cramped in the engine bay helps not Having an Aircon pump thought I was thinking Of just seeing what I could fit in there it's mainly going to Be for extra grunt running a winch get one of the link things Sorry I don't know the name but might even fit a deep cycle In the Space of a draw system as long as it works And looks some what legal it will be just fine
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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 Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:55 pm |
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For a winch you want a high-output cranking battery, not a deep cycle.
I think batteries inside the cabin need to be vented to the outside to be legal... could be wrong on that though.
Oh, and the "link thing" is generally called an isolator.
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headwerkn

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Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:21 pm Posts: 34 Location: Northern Tasmania
Vehicle: '93 Vitara JX LWB
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Built4thrashing wrote: Oh and note the 2 engine bays in the pics above are left hand drive vitara's Well spotted... I was wondering why the brake booster wasn't in its usual position behind the factory battery.
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David-mohr122
Joined: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:53 pm Posts: 43
Vehicle: Suzuki vitara 94 g16a
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:39 am |
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That's the thing , we I measured it / trail fitted it I can just fit a discovery battery In the factory battery spot ( friend had one laying around) like I Know this is a stupid question but a triple battery system How much of a nightmare would that be to set up
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zoukshin
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:20 am Posts: 320
Vehicle: 2004GV + bar + custom mods
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triple batteries require dual isolators I guess. but that can be done. Lots of wiring  Also if you run meters of 2-gauge wire, you'll experience voltage drop and significant loss of power. The shorter the cables the better.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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If u have a winch u will want 35mm cable if batt is up front and 50 or 70mm2 if it's in the boot. If u are only running winch and not a fridge I wouldn't bother with any isolators.
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zoukshin
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:20 am Posts: 320
Vehicle: 2004GV + bar + custom mods
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 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:51 am |
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Not using isolators means the lower-charged batteries will constantly drain the higher charged one. Pretty sure it's not a good plan. Some people have recommended using cheap 20$ solenoids without much worries.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:14 am |
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If u r using it only for a winch then they will share the load and both charge and discharge together. If u r running a fridge off one yes it will if u connect them together with the car not running. The alt will charge 2 batt at once no worries. If u r winching u want a faclon alt anyway.
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