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Author:  maxtest [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Hi Guys I have recently rebuilt my second sierra engine (1.3) the first one was a 1L.
When I rebuilt the first one It ran extremely hot after taking it for a 2 minute drive. I got it timed by a mechanic and it fixed it perfectly (Was too far advanced)

Now I finished rebuilding my 1.3 yesterday and I timed it myself, it was running fine didnt get hot or anything, got the mechanic to come and check the timing incase and he said it was 7 Degrees out. So he fixed it up, now it is running really hot after a 2 minute drive, could he of put it out of time? I am yet to replace the thermostat since the head blew as I tested it but I will replace it tomorrow incase.

Author:  killazook [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

What degrees btdc did he set it too

Author:  maxtest [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

I believe he tried to set it to 8Degrees, he was using a painted mark on the crank pulley but im not sure if the painted mark was inline with the keyway.

Author:  killazook [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Yer well that would be worth checking but 8 degrees is right and have you checked your cooling systems health

Author:  maxtest [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

The cooling system is fine I havent replaced the thermostat yet I tested it and it was fine but I am going to replace it tomorrow anyway

Author:  JrZook [ Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Define "really hot" How many degrees C water temp are we talking?

Author:  alien [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

also. if you do replace the thermostat - replace it with genuine suzuki. Genuine thermostats jam open when they fail rather than jamming shut and overheating the motor.

Author:  maxtest [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Which way does the little bleeder face on the thermostat

Author:  royce [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

maxtest wrote:
Which way does the little bleeder face on the thermostat


Where the hole sits doesnt matter, make sure youve got the bulkier side of the thermostat (the side with the spring) facing down though

alien wrote:
also. if you do replace the thermostat - replace it with genuine suzuki. Genuine thermostats jam open when they fail rather than jamming shut and overheating the motor.

No they don't they are all the same that the stupidest thing ive ever heard.

Author:  alien [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

my last thermostat that died was genuine and it had stuck open - i bought a new one from suzistore and mentioned it to them and they said that's what the genuine ones do when they fail (get stuck open)... but whatever... his choice what thermostat he buys.

Author:  killazook [ Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Same with my zook it still had the original and when it died it was stuck open

Author:  losfer [ Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

is the mechanical fan on the right way? make sure the ribs in the centre of the fan are facing forward and not backwards ...
another thing its fine to set base timing , but is the mechanical and vacuum advance working ? theres not many sierras that ive tested that the vacuum advance has worked on them.

Author:  maxtest [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Is this the right way?

Author:  Blkfxx [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

That's backwards.

Author:  losfer [ Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Yep that fan is on the wrong way...

Author:  maxtest [ Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

cheers fixed it up running abit better now. could it also be running alittle more hot than usual if the tapepts are out?

Author:  FullyZooked [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Ok when you say rebuild, were talking a full strip and all bearings, seals etc replaced?

Yes tight exhaust valves will make the engine run hotter than normal but since you rebuilt it you would have done the clearances?

When you say hot, how hot in Celsius? Don't rely on the factory Suzuki gauge as a thermometer. Some run operating temp just past cold, some quarter and others like mine run on half shown on the gauge.

You need to have the car up to operating temp, pop the bonnet and stick a temp gun on the thermostat housing. This will give you a much better idea of true temp.

Let us know what temp she's at and where its sitting on the "gauge".

Author:  droverdave [ Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Be aware that the fan shouldn't make a whole lot of difference once you are moving. I ran mine without a fan for a bit and as long as I didn't stay still for more than about 5mins the temperature stayed "normal".

Author:  whincup [ Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

what temperature is normal and whats too hot for a sierra? when measuring the temperature at the thermostat

Author:  jdk81 [ Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rebuilt Engine Running Hot

Did you get the carby rebuilt?
Are the jets in the right spot (i.e. didnt get swapped accidentally)

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