[Tiop]

Hi ive currently got a stock coil sprung sierra and i guess im after opinions on weather to spend money on this ie lift kit, bigger tires and maybe a transfer swap, or to buy a leaf sprung one, i should be able to sell mine for about 3k which should buy a leafy with atleast the basics (lift, tires, bull bar, maybe even some more stuff)

cheers for any comments

[alien]

Leafy for sure IMO - otherwise, just get a jimny and mod that - there's more parts available for them than there is coily.

[droverdave]

What sort of 4wding are you into? Beaches and some mud, or full on rock crawling. that will determine if its worth it or not.

235 tyres were a bit too big on the transfer case gears in my mates coily for slow stuff, i reckon if he had gone with 215 it would have been much better. But it was still a blast with the 235 tyres for anything we wanted to do with it, which to be honest was beech work and some fire tracks around the place.

I have a leaf spring car now, and I don't see the advantage over the coily as i'm not interested in rock crawling or diff locks etc. The car in standard form with 215 wheels does everything I need it to do. One big advantage of a coily is they are the newest sierra, so in general youd hope they would be in better condition than any of the leafs. But like you say, you can buy a leafy with a few bits and pieces already on it. Just be careful you don't trade a good working car for a liability....

[pezz]

As droverdave has said, if your keepin it simple the coily will do fine

but if your even thinking 30+ rubber or diff locks might be I the future id buy a leafy
if your thinking bigger than 31's id look for a nt 1.3 over a wt 1.3

[Tiop]

cool thanks guys, driving in mountains say fire trails in the watigans area and all the detours the more challanging stuff is def rocky climbs but nothing to crazy, i already have a leafy transfer to swap into the coily i think even with stock tires its to high geared especially on down hill (if thats no good ill go a 1ltr)

yea i def dont want to trade for something thats going to cost me more, i was considering spending nore for something with alot more work but i dont really know if diff locks etc are really needed eg like jimbo_jones LWB http://www.auszookers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=46200&hilit=lwb

why dont people just move the suspension mounts on a WT further inboard ?

really need to decide how into this im going to get, i just know spending money doing everything myself will cost more in the long run imo.

[pezz]

You can move them in, but not everyone is into fab work.
best bet is to get alonb to one of 31zook's wattos trips.
you will see a bunch of different rigs and get a idea of what will suit you

[greenzook89]

Do remember if you run 235s or bigger on a leafy you will still need to gear it to suit. Tbh if your coily is a neat tidy example then I would be inclined to work with what you have. The biggest hurdle will be front locker but that could be sorted soon...

I know I wouldnt swap my coily for a leafy for the wheeling I do...

[Tiop]

going to just buy a set of these 225/75/15 retreads from sydney $65 each just need to get them to me dont want to pay $30 each tire for delivery defeats purpose abit

[epitam]

greenzook89 wrote:

Do remember if you run 235s or bigger on a leafy you will still need to gear it to suit. Tbh if your coily is a neat tidy example then I would be inclined to work with what you have. The biggest hurdle will be front locker but that could be sorted soon...

I know I wouldnt swap my coily for a leafy for the wheeling I do...

+1.
It rides so much better than leafy. Speical when its on 235 and nice suspension.

[Gwagensteve]

I disagree. The advantages of the coil car are principally related to better steering response. Spring rate is or can be basically the same between both cars. It's definitely possible for a leaf car to ride as smoothly as a coil car. Especially if the coil car has lifted suspension.

Steve.

[droverdave]

Yer my mates coily i was refering too had some sort of 2" lift kit in it (i think it was bluepak, any ebay jobby) and it was fairly harsh and bouncy. My leafy is quite comfortable i reckon, soaks up the bumps in the road nicely.... as comfortable as a 30yr old uber short wheel base tiny 4wd can be...

but yer that all comes down to spring rate and more importantly the shock absorbers and how they interact with the springs, so its hard to make a direct comparison.

[alien]

Also depends on how fat the driver is =) lol

Some sierra drivers are close to 10% of the GVM!

[MrRocky]

Yes.... close to 10% gmv

[SierraDan]

134kg.. Wow.

[alien]

Can you imagine if that were true for something like a landcruiser? =)

[zookermatt]

While we're on this topic
How do 235's go on stock coily? Do they scrub at all, even at full flex?
just wondering cause I'm thinking of getting 235's soon. And does it have a noticeable affect on the low range gears

[greenzook89]

zookermatt wrote:

While we're on this topic
How do 235's go on stock coily? Do they scrub at all, even at full flex?
just wondering cause I'm thinking of getting 235's soon. And does it have a noticeable affect on the low range gears

235s are a good size. I ran 30s (they were that worn out they probably were 235s) on standard rims with just a bit of gaurd bashing. I have 15x7 rims with 235s and a 40mm spring lift and it doesnt rub.

as for gearing you do notice it a bit. Depends what you drive really.

[westralia]

"going to just buy a set of these 225/75/15 retreads from sydney $65 each"

Sometimes these sort of things look like a great deal. Years ago I purchased some 7.50 x 16 retreads for a landcruiser. They looked pretty good, but took a heap to balance.
One even had 500g of lead, and still could not be balanced.
Maybe they are a bit better these days, but don't expect too much tech for $65.

[Tiop]

haha wish me luck, might take the wheels to them to get balnced think they offer to do it $15 a wheel

[atari4x4]

a wise man once said, a poor man pay's twice.

[Trebor]

Here is a pic of my coily



If you stick with the coily there are was to make it work

[Tiop]

Well this is the 225/75/15 retreads havent had a chance to really try them (hope they air down ok), def now i need to gear down i mostly drive mountain/ rocky areas

oh btw maybe becasue they are retread might be slightly larger but these just touch under the gaurds at full flex, dont think its enought to matter.

[Gwagensteve]

Looks to me that if you bounced the car with steering lock on they'll make a fair mess of the front guards.

Steve.

[Tiop]

yea could be right about having the wheels turned, ive massaged the lips in the front, maybe need small extension for bump stops. the rear is just ok

[Tiop]

if this was in the shed would you convert ? or just go 1.6 like most ? seems like alot of work just for laughs

[atari4x4]

you should totes do it...

in all honesty every engine conversion that's done because they have "such & such engine" laying around usually doesn't end well. but in saying that the SR20 into sierra has been done before, should be able to find a few pics n threads if you have a shurch.

[hypactiv1]

pezz wrote:

As droverdave has said, if your keepin it simple the coily will do fine

but if your even thinking 30+ rubber or diff locks might be I the future id buy a leafy
if your thinking bigger than 31's id look for a nt 1.3 over a wt 1.3

Why would you go for NT over WT Just wondering what the advantages are?

[jimny_timmy]

Did you buy that coily from Coffs Harbour?

[Tiop]

^^ yea me and a mate went 1/2's after we got on the piss night before lol... now its mine but

[bangn]

as much as I love the fact I can throw anything at my leafy..

Fuck its a horrid car to drive on and offroad. Way too harsh.