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Author:  Onderbroek [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
i need to do some work on my swivel hub on my coily:

see oil leak:

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now parts for the coily in South africa is hard to come by - but the SJ413 seems easier to find:
are the axles the same:
SJ413

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sj80

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Author:  sideways [ Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: are the front axles on the SJ413 and the SJ80 the same?
A coily is an SJ413.

There's 2 naming systems Suzuki use.

First we have SJ40 (1l), SJ50 (NT 1.3l), SJ70 (WT), SJ80 (coily) ect. This uses letters to specify a series of vehicles then a number to specify the generation. This goes further too, a 1 may replace the 0 to indicate a LWB and letters are added to the end to show which variant. For example, a v on the end (eg SJ40v) indicates it's a hard top.

The second relates to the engine size. So lets take SJ413.

SJ = the Sierra series of vehicles.
4 = 4cyl engine
13 =1.3 litre engine

Similarly, a 2.5l V6 Grand Vitara is a SQ625 and so on.

The axles aren't the same but the oil seals might be if that's what you're asking.
Author:  Onderbroek [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: are the front axles on the SJ413 and the SJ80 the same?
Oooohhh.

will start stripping this weekend with the help of the low range offroad guide, and see if the parts match
Author:  Onderbroek [ Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
I stripped the knuckle on friday and have a couple of questions

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The SJ413 does not have the below parts
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Author:  Onderbroek [ Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
Some more questions.

The steering knuckle has these small holes in them - is this normal?

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And when I removed the kingpins I marked which one come on the top and the bottom, but I can't remember what way the came in probably can't install them wrong way round, is there anyway to check how i must install them?


and does anybody have a diagram with the parts?
Author:  Dec [ Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
At the bottom of the link you can download the instructions.
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/front-kn ... -kits.html
Can't be much help with the other questions. Good luck with it.
Author:  Onderbroek [ Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
Thanks Dec, i used that manual for the job, just some of the parts are a bit different - had a look at them Jimny sn413 service manual and it seemed that the coily is similar
Author:  Dec [ Mon Oct 20, 2014 10:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
I'm not sure if this is what you're meaning
In the picture below you can see my new bearings sitting in the outer-ring (cup). The lip of that outer-ring(cup) is on the inside so the bearing then sits inside. Hopefully that makes sense.

Cheers Dec
Author:  Jazzor [ Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
Nice clean up!

Re the other holes - they are normal, they are where the bolts for the bit of metal that hold the caliper on? go through that bit of metal in your pic. Hence why there is gasket/silicon stuff hanging out of it pushed in via the bolt.

It won't matter where the king pins go (especially if you have new bearings), they are exactly the same.

Cheers!
Author:  Onderbroek [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
Thanks dec, that is exactly the part that is a bit different. - jazzor thanks for clearing up the confusion.

Regarding the kingpin bearing one had a washer like seal - and the bottom one didn't - I've been to 2 bearing shops and none of the can supply the bearing with the seal - only without.

I'll try uploading a pic tomorrow
Author:  Onderbroek [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
See pics of bearings one had a seal and the other did not have one, surely both should have seals?


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Author:  Jazzor [ Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
I've been through a few sets and never been given a sealed king pin bearing. They should work equally as well if they both have the same amount of grease in them :).
Author:  Onderbroek [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 1:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
Suzuki charged me 410ZAR and bearing shop charges 80ZAR for the unsealed unit - had a chat to a Suzuki specialist he says decent amount of grease and everything will be fine.

Thanks for the help. Now let's hope I can put everything back together
Author:  Onderbroek [ Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
So I managed to put everything back together again, but I suspect I might have made a mistake somewhere, is I have no front wheel drive, none of the front wheels turn when I have 4x4 engaged - before I take everything apart again, what can I look for? Any ideas
Author:  jdk81 [ Fri Nov 14, 2014 6:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
Check the free wheeling hubs.

No need to pull it all apart, unless you removed the axles for some reason and forgot to reinstall them.
Author:  Onderbroek [ Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
Haha. Will check tonight- I'm 92% sure I reinstalled the axles
Author:  Onderbroek [ Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steering knuckle rebuild coily sj80
Fixed - the other sides hub was stuck, cleaned it and added some grease
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