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Author:  bigrig91 [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:08 am ]
Post subject:  1.3 vs 1.6

i have the 1.6ltr carby engine in my sierra. would i have to get a clutch to suit a 1.6 or 1.3??
stupid question maybe?
cheers
brad

Author:  joeblow [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1.3 vs 1.6

what gearbox?. clutch type is determined by gearbox.

Author:  shep [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:17 am ]
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if you have a sierra gear box i would say 1.3 clutch. pull it apart and have a
look though as there are two clutches for the 1.3.

Author:  Damo [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1.3 vs 1.6

bigrig91 wrote:
i have the 1.6ltr carby engine in my sierra. would i have to get a clutch to suit a 1.6 or 1.3??
stupid question maybe?
cheers
brad


The transmission you have will dictate what clutch you have. Most 1.3->1.6 engine swaps utilise the original transmission, so it's most likely that you'll want the 1.3 clutch. I'd recommend pulling your clutch out before you buy one though, as there are 2 differnt types of clutch plate for the 1.3s, (the spline count is different).

Author:  bigrig91 [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:24 am ]
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thanks heaps for all that. is it hard to pull the clutch out? considering you could hold the gearbox in one hand i dont think i should have too much trouble hahaha.

Author:  shep [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1.3 vs 1.6

i am doing it tomorrow so i can take some photos if you want.
it is a 1.6 with sierra box as well :wink:

Author:  bigrig91 [ Thu May 14, 2009 12:41 am ]
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that sounds good shep. much appreciated. how does your mighty 1.6 go? i am a bit worried about mine will have to take it on a non member run to compare.

Author:  shep [ Thu May 14, 2009 1:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1.3 vs 1.6

haven't had a chance to test it out yet, i drove it around the block and broke a clutch cable. http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=4799

Author:  Scrawny [ Thu May 14, 2009 1:38 am ]
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shep wrote:
i drove it around the block and broke a clutch cable.


or 3 :D

Can someone tell me which ones take the stepped flywheel and which ones use the flat ones? I thought flat were NT and stepped WT but could be wrong? Sorry for the threadjack :oops:

Author:  shep [ Thu May 14, 2009 2:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 1.3 vs 1.6

i have 3 gear boxes 89wt swb, 85 drover pos, 85 1.3 lwb all of them have 20 spline
input shafts and used a stepped flywheel. my wt is still a sj50 so maybe it is
the sj70's that are different.

Author:  shep [ Thu May 14, 2009 2:38 am ]
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or maybe it was the vit flywheel that was stepped and what i have is flat :lol:
i will have a look in the morning

Author:  Hybrid [ Thu May 14, 2009 1:02 pm ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
shep wrote:
i drove it around the block and broke a clutch cable.


or 3 :D

Can someone tell me which ones take the stepped flywheel and which ones use the flat ones? I thought flat were NT and stepped WT but could be wrong? Sorry for the threadjack :oops:


Your best bet is to pull it out and check. I was "told" by both repco and autobarn mine was the early one with the lesser numberd spline (19?) and the flat flywheel then when I pulled it apart it was the complete opposite. Needless to say I now have an expensive paperweight of a new 19 pressure plate and clutch.

To the OP I've got the exact same setup as you. Notch a v out of the front of the transmission mount (forward of the centre bolt hole). Once that's done its pretty damn easy to muscle the box in and out. I've had mine in and out half a dozen times now. Plus you'll be happy with the 1.6 performance over the 1.3 though I've added EFI to mine now.

Author:  royce [ Thu May 14, 2009 1:18 pm ]
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all NT are one type

WT are a choice of 2, different splines and stepped or flat flywheel, have to use the right flywheel to suit your box too

Coily are all the same, so you might be able to go with that, assuming it hasnt been changed

Author:  Scrawny [ Thu May 14, 2009 1:40 pm ]
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So stepped use the 22 spline?

And flat use the 19?

Author:  Trojan [ Thu May 14, 2009 4:15 pm ]
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royce wrote:
Coily are all the same, so you might be able to go with that, assuming it hasnt been changed


With a coily, they use the same clutch and pressure plate as a 20 spline leaf model. The throw out bearing is different though.

Author:  shep [ Thu May 14, 2009 6:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 1.3 vs 1.6

just to throw a spanner in the works, these are the two sierra clutches that i have. the new one has 18 spline, the old has 20.
my car 89 wt sj50 has the 20spline and a stepped flywheel :D
Image
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Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Thu May 14, 2009 7:30 pm ]
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shep wrote:
if you have a sierra gear box i would say 1.3 clutch. pull it apart and have a
look though as there are two clutches for the 1.3.


Mine only has one... :wink:

Author:  shep [ Thu May 14, 2009 8:07 pm ]
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lump_a_charcoal wrote:
shep wrote:
if you have a sierra gear box i would say 1.3 clutch. pull it apart and have a
look though as there are two clutches for the 1.3.


Mine only has one... :wink:

i have one of those rare triple plate hi-tec jobbies. :D
do you want the POS it just brakes clutch cables.
Image

Author:  Mike [ Thu May 14, 2009 9:17 pm ]
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i will take the clutch if your giving it away :wink:

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