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| Author: | Ausx90 [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 5:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | School me on turbos for g16b |
I'm after any info, prices, and any knob problems with turboing a g16b I'm not after big power just more torque Thanks |
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| Author: | neofitou [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 8:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
Basically if you need to ask the questions, you shouldn't be doing it. G16Bs are old and crack. First of all you will need a newer one from a Baleno, then make sure you have several thousand dollars handy to do it properly to strengthen the motor lower the compression a computer and dyno time. Turboing is generally not cost effective, if you don't need more power but need more torque, you probably just need some gear reduction. Gears: http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/sidekick ... gears.html Chris's write up: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30281 |
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| Author: | buzbox [ Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
Yes it can be done, but bang for buck, its not really worth it. By that i mean youd get just as much or more power by doing an engine conversion to lets say a suzuki j20. |
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| Author: | zook_ute [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 6:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
Definitely worth it, could be done on a budget if your sourced the parts in good used condition. I always thought that they were weak, i have since found out they are pretty strong lol I think if you were to do it a head stud kit and a descent head gasket would be the go. hold 7-9 psi with a good computer and tune lol |
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| Author: | buzbox [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
How much did it end up costing you? |
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| Author: | zook_ute [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
Well i went arse about face way of doing it, i never had a problem with mine though. I bought my motor as a built motor with 10000ks on it with like 12k of receipts. turned out that I basically got ripped off and it was just a standard bottom. Unfortunately I didn't find that out until I sold the engine to a another bloke. it was a nothing short of a nightmare really :/ I ran 12 psi, Chapmans tuned it. standard bottom end. I think you could do it for around 6k if you can do some of the work your self |
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| Author: | Ausx90 [ Mon Nov 10, 2014 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
Thanks for the replies for 6k it's not worth it to me, thanks any way |
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| Author: | droverdave [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
How do you come up with 6k for mostly diy? |
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| Author: | henno [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
droverdave wrote: How do you come up with 6k for mostly diy? A decent computer and tune is going to be around a third of that already? |
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| Author: | Joshyboy26 [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
Assuming junkyard parts. Turbo $500 manifolds exhaust etc $5-1000 depending on where from custom etc. sensors computer wiring. About $2500 Engine rebuilt not including any comp changes with pistons or rods etc. $1000 diy various hoses fuel lines injectors $800 Oils filters coolants. $200 And that's before a tune, all the little bits you forget and all the bits you fuck up and have to replace |
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| Author: | droverdave [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 7:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
I bought a Haltech E8 for $200, even came with a 3 bar map sensor and an air temp sensor. Still an excellent computer. No need to buy a brand new one. Look for bargains and the price will come down. |
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| Author: | zook_ute [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
600-800 ball bearing t28 garret turbo from s15 300-bov and boost controller 300-intercooler 300-intercooler piping 300-braided water and oil lines for turbo 400-2jz injectors modify rail to fit 500-750 turbo manifold and dump pipe 600-2.5 inch zest with a descent muffler 500-700 second hand ems stinger 1000-wire competer, tune descent ignition setup 150 good head gasket 150 head stud kit 400- vl turbo external fuel pump and reg few hose fittings it all adds up pretty quick, there would definitely be a few things I have missed. The big problem is that nothing is off the shelf really, everything needs to be made to suit. seems to be a few people out there that have gone threw with the conversion. suzuki engines free rev, i loved the power delivery my last one had. surprised a fair few people, blew off my fair share of ss commodore, even give the fg turbos a good run hahaha |
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| Author: | buzbox [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 1:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
Have a look on other forums like boostcruising, or redlinegti. They may be able to shed a bit more light on the process etc. A few of the Gti guys use the g16b block with twin cam head and other crap which may give you a few more ideas. A few years back I do remember a GTi being about 8th on the FWD 1/4mile top 10. But again, better off doing a proven engine conversion. |
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| Author: | got_bar_work [ Tue Nov 11, 2014 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
Check u have 5.12 diffs not 4.8 and get tc gears |
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| Author: | vet 180 [ Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: School me on turbos for g16b |
zook_ute wrote: 600-800 ball bearing t28 garret turbo from s15 300-bov and boost controller 300-intercooler 300-intercooler piping 300-braided water and oil lines for turbo 400-2jz injectors modify rail to fit 500-750 turbo manifold and dump pipe 600-2.5 inch zest with a descent muffler 500-700 second hand ems stinger 1000-wire competer, tune descent ignition setup 150 good head gasket 150 head stud kit 400- vl turbo external fuel pump and reg few hose fittings it all adds up pretty quick, there would definitely be a few things I have missed. The big problem is that nothing is off the shelf really, everything needs to be made to suit. seems to be a few people out there that have gone threw with the conversion. suzuki engines free rev, i loved the power delivery my last one had. surprised a fair few people, blew off my fair share of ss commodore, even give the fg turbos a good run hahaha I am going to play devils advocate on this post, although I agree with the general msg as things do add up fast. No need for t28. A ca18 t25 with the .48 ex housing will be more suited, make boost earlier and still be capable to pump out 150rwkws. Can be had for $200-$300 Forget bov and boost controller. No need. Maybe budget $30 for a turbo tech $500-600 for cooler and piping seems fair using new parts. Can be done much cheaper if your scrounge and use steel piping. $200 for braided lined will be enough $400 is way too steep for 4 2jz injectors. There are other cheaper options. $1000 will be needed for basic log manifold, dump and exhaust with decent muffler $150 head gasket $150 studs $1000-1500 for decent ecu and wiring and basic tune seems fair $100 for the fuel pump, reg and fittings. $30 at u pull it will get you a camera pump which is the same as the vl turbo. Any Nissan rising rate reg will be fine. I think $3500-$4000 is defiantly possible with some shopping around and a little diy. Could be done much cheaper if you skimp on everything, but I think it's a fair budget for a good result. |
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