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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Alot of people seem to rave about this setup. Just wondering what the major benifits are in running it. I drive with alot of guys running quite heavily modded zooks capable of driving nearly every accessible track within a 6hr radius and all have no issues with the rear end. I mean a g16b isnt necessary but makes a massive difference to the car and the way it drives. What exactly does a full floater setup do ? And dont just say its better, why does it have to be better ?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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For me - I twisted my rear axle splines (over 5 years though) and was going through rear drum shoes at an incredible rate - so the floater setup was a win win.... at Joeblow's introductory price it was also quite cheap versus replacing the stock axles and shoes given the added reliability.
The most noticeable difference however is how amazing my handbrake now works =)
So for me it was more about reliability. It's just something I don't need to worry about now.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:06 am |
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A full floating axle is one where the weight of the vehicle is supported by the axle housing and not the axle shaft - the axle shaft simply transfers the torque to the wheel.
With a full floater a broken axle shaft would simply result in a loss of drive to that corner, rather than the possible loss of the entire wheel assembly - it could mean the difference between having to get a replacement axle brought to you for the vehicle to be moved, or simply driving it out and performing the repair at a more convenient location.
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chris77
Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:28 pm Posts: 73
Vehicle: sj413
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I made my floating rear for lots of little reasons rather than one big one . Some of the guys we get out with are breaking rear diffs now , but they are running 33's . My reasons for building my vitara rear floating housing was Wanted to run 4.62 diff ratio and can use a set of diffs not just the front Cost - If I break a rear diff I can just swap in a vitara rear , no cost of swapping of parts to a 413 housing and setting up etc Wanted disc brake's on the rear Can carry one spare hub/bearings for all four wheels Break an axle and it can be removed and still drive home Wanted to be able to flat tow it , so I can put fwh on when required An advantage of doing it was I could make it a custom width to match the front without wheel spacers .
Installing rear disc brakes and changing the ratio etc can all be done to a standard diff but add it all up and thats why I went down that road , time will tell if it was the right one when I get it back on the trail .
Cheers Chris
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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I went to full floater for a few reasons
I had previously twisted a WT rear axle, and later correctly twisted it. It was only a matter of time until a trip was ruined and PITA repair etc.
I had also reached the point where I was driving my car a lot harder than previously before. Breakage was inevitable
Due to dailying my Sierra, and wheeling it, I was doing rear wheel bearings about 4 times a year. At about $400/year to maintain the rear bearings, I was getting sick of it.
I had just previously swapped to Subaru calipers and disc brake rear end, so the brake upgrade wasnt a factor for me. I'm currently not running a handbrake - but setup to run the transfer handbrake.
I wanted the strength to run 35" tyres for future progression
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J--A--C--K
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:48 am Posts: 253 Location: melbourne
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If I had the ability. I think the pain in the ass wheel bearings would be reason enough for me to go a floater.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:16 am |
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also if you were to break a shaft. you can pull the drive flange and shaft out and drive home on one shaft presuming you have a locker
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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I suppose everyones scenarios are specific for the type of wheeling the do. Just doesnt really apply in W.A. with the type of terrain we have here. All sierra rears twist a bit with a locker but ive only seen 1 rear break in 6-7 years of driving hard tracks with the same 3-4 lwbs. As for brakes, handbrake and bearings i dont do mud and my bearings seem to last quite well even with spacers. Floaters certainly seem to suit you guys over east alot more than here in the west where it only rains 4 times a year haha.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Mine were twisted and cracked and slapping about making all sorts of noises... I reckon if i'd have driven it much more one of them would have snapped. Either way, it was a nice upgrade to have done when i had the chance =) It's been exactly 2 years now and wheels bearings are still all good and brakes still have plenty of meat on them. That's a real win IMO
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 9:52 am |
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Not sure what rain has to do with a requiring a floater?
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:33 am |
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Some saying brakes and handbrake dont work on standard setup very well. Just implying they work fine if u stay away from water.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:02 am |
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Merely a by product of the conversion though. If that was the only benefit, there's easier/cheaper options.
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vet 180
Joined: Mon May 05, 2014 11:50 am Posts: 1246
Vehicle: Vitara 1994
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:36 pm |
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The main reasons are strength and the fact you can drive home with a breakage
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