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Troll
Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 103 Location: Springwood/Qld
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HOLY CRAP  the zuk has a mind of its own. im getting reallg bad death wobbles in my zook it happens at about 40kmh-50kmh i can sometimes accelerate out of it, but i usually have to pull over i put a 2 inch lift in it last night. yes everything is tight.
Help please
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 1:24 am |
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your swivel hub seals are worn
your king pins may not be at correct pre load
your steering stabiliser may be loose / broken
your u bolts may be loose
the lift doesnt cause it, its the weight of the springs and stiffness of the bushes that move the harmonic point of the wobble into the driving range
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Westie

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:06 am |
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Wow if all that is wrong then shoot  it before it spreads through the forum
_________________ Steve W
Old guy .... Just wants to go 4WDing with
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:15 am |
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only needs to be 1 thing from that list
score one for vits, no death wobbles 
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joshNZ
Joined: Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 237 Location: Caboolture QLD
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the front springs could be rooted,mine where and i got huge death vibe's through mine
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Troll
Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 103 Location: Springwood/Qld
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:32 am |
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they are barnd new i only pickred them up for the shop yesturday
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oscar
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 911 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:25 pm |
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did u undo the steering at all
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Troll
Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 103 Location: Springwood/Qld
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:02 pm |
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nope didnt touch the steering at all.
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Westie

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Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 2:04 pm |
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I am with you Royce. Vit's RULE
_________________ Steve W
Old guy .... Just wants to go 4WDing with
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:09 pm |
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worn wheel bearings could also contribute.
I've had this problem with all my zooks... ahh the fun.
make sure ya got good or new bushes, a good steering dampner, and check ya wheel bearings.
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Troll
Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 103 Location: Springwood/Qld
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:31 pm |
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i think it mite be the swivel hub seal. where are the kingpins? everything else is ok.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 3:38 pm |
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kingpins are the bearings the hubs steer on, they are under the caps on the swivels
cant remember the specs now but its in the manual in the downloads section 
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Westie

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:37 pm |
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_________________ Steve W
Old guy .... Just wants to go 4WDing with
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oscar
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 911 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 11:43 pm |
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i jest redid all my bearings, didn't tension kingpins and it seems fine. are u using same tyres. could be outta balance
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Troll
Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 103 Location: Springwood/Qld
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 Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:08 am |
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yeah same wheels and tyres. extended shackles and shocks are all the same too.. only things new are springs and bushes
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Troll
Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 103 Location: Springwood/Qld
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 Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:41 am |
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i just checked the steering dampner and it works great on way but when i push it in it moves about 2 1/2 inches before it gets any resistance. looks like ill be buying a new dampner tomorrow
_________________ 84 lwb sierra, 30x9.5, 2 inch lift
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oscar
Joined: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 911 Location: Ipswich
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steal ya bros to check so ya dont waist ya money cuz mines rooted with rust holes in it and i dont get wobbles
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Troll
Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 103 Location: Springwood/Qld
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 Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:42 am |
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hes down the coast other wise i would
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Kerrod
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 369 Location: Qld
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 Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:10 pm |
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hey i have the same problem to, there's no play in n e of the bearing, the wheels are balanced to!
but when i put 31's on i don't get n e wobbles at all!
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SONIA
Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 6
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TRY TAKING A SHIM OUT OF YOUR KINGPINS. WILL ADD A LITTLE PRELOAD BACK ONTO YOUR KINGPINS.THE SHIMS ARE UNDER THE KINGPIN CAPS. MY HUBBY HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AND THIS FIXED IT.
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Kerrod
Joined: Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 369 Location: Qld
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SONIA
Joined: Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 6
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 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:37 pm |
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just wondering how u went?
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McGark
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 6
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I am in the same boat, brand new springs, got the wheels balanced and checked the bolts everywhere and they are crazy at around 60kms and sometimes you can push past them but most the time you have to stomp down to arouns 30kms and hour (pretty dangerous!) they also go away when I put my mates 30''s on there.
Any miracle cures or solutions to this problem yet????
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:46 pm |
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my miracle cure is scraper seals, if it definatly doesnt do it with your mates 30's (at any other speed) then look at your rims and tires, difference in weight or offset can do it
or moving the steering stabiliser down onto the diff like a hilux works good too
http://www.puresuzuki.com/steering_stabilizer_kit.htm
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:35 am |
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excellent, another one with death wobbles, makes me feel better 
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MART
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 282 Location: Sydney
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 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:01 am |
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You say you have new springs , this would of changed your kingpin angle if they are lifted springs , also your kingpin bearings , if notchy will cause it, also wider rims , plus a combination of steering box play , loose or worn drag link and ball joints , plus a worn steering dampner , I had this problem , so I moved it down to the diff and used a 80 series dampner , driving at 110 on the freeway , no vibration and steers perfectly , cheers Paul
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McGark
Joined: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 6
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 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:49 pm |
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oh ok,
Is moving the steering dampner to the diff a big job or an expensive one? also is the steering kit the same as the return to centre steering kit that's on ebay?
I have just bought a set of 31s but I need to fit a body lift first so can I just assume it will be right with the bigger wheels on it or will it come back to bite me on the arse later on?
Thanks
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kamron80
Joined: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 20
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Had the same problem in mine, this isn't so much a solution but mine were really bad at 50-70 kms and I ended up replacing the front wheel bearings and hubs and still got them, they didn't go away until I bought 4 new tyres. Had no wobbles for a few weeks but just recently they started to surface again but are very minimal. Hope this can be of some help if you are running out of solutions
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dockers
Joined: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 30
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 Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 10:06 pm |
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watch that your sway bar is not jammed against your steering dampner the hangers arent long enough for a 2 inch lift.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:24 pm |
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dockers wrote: watch that your sway bar is not jammed against your steering dampner the hangers arent long enough for a 2 inch lift.
Or even better, ditch the sway bar all together!! 
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