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Author:  Beanie12 [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:19 am ]
Post subject:  Extra fuel
Hi all,

Got a big stock 86 Sierra...looking to carry a Jerry can/have more fuel.
Any ideas on the best method? Was looking at a Jerry can mount on the spare, but have seen some people saying it's too heavy for the back door? Any ideas appreciated

Cheers
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:07 pm ]
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It's both too heavy for the back door and illegal.
Author:  Beanie12 [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:22 pm ]
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Ok no worries. Other ideas? Is there a longer range tank on the market?
Author:  Reubs [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:26 pm ]
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I have always carried them inside the car directly in front of the tailgate.
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:37 pm ]
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Yes there are long range tanks available. They are very expensive though and compromise ground clearance.
Author:  alien [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:49 pm ]
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How much extra fuel do you NEED to carry?

My sierra has a range of about 300km if doing 110km/hr, so a 5L jerry in the back is ample as a "just in case" if i were doing a 300km trip not wanting to stop. If i was planning on doing remote areas though then i'd probably want to be packing 2x 20L's in the back, in which case a long range tank is probably better given the limited space in the back of a sierra, and if you're touring then tank clearance won't be as much of an issue as rock hopping.
Author:  Beanie12 [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:31 pm ]
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Yeh alien my range is about the same. I just use half my fuel to get to the start of a track haha. Haven't been off-road heaps in so not sure what the consumption is like off-road. Plus carrying a Jerry inside doesn't leave much room for camping gear/esky etc doesn't sound like there's many options though...
Author:  Marko_SJ [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:36 pm ]
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alien wrote:
How much extra fuel do you NEED to carry?

My sierra has a range of about 300km if doing 110km/hr, so a 5L jerry in the back is ample as a "just in case" if i were doing a 300km trip not wanting to stop. If i was planning on doing remote areas though then i'd probably want to be packing 2x 20L's in the back, in which case a long range tank is probably better given the limited space in the back of a sierra, and if you're touring then tank clearance won't be as much of an issue as rock hopping.


There's places out there its better to just keep driving IMO. Its nice to have a range over 600km to a tank if need be.

IMO.
Author:  Marck [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:23 pm ]
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I was thinking of using a couple of 25 litre boat fule tanks on my roof racks. Advantages are they are vented and you can just use a boat fule line to siphon into the cars tank so you don't have to get them down to fule up only thing is it will be a little slow . When your done unhook the fule line and your away. Also low profile so they won't mess with your clearance for car parks and such to much.

Leagle ? No idea but has to be a bit better than a jerry on the racks?

Marc
Author:  alien [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:07 pm ]
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That's a lot of weight to have up high though!

And don't forget, weight zaps fuel economy too, so adding 50L of fuel = approx 38kg (petrol weighs about 750g/L) that's a lot of weight to add to a light vehicle like a sierra. If it's not 100% needed then you're better off going without.
Author:  shep [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:17 pm ]
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Can fit 100L on the passenger side front footwell
Author:  Marko_SJ [ Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:45 pm ]
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Jerrys, custom storage, or a long range are the way to go IMO.

Sierras have shithouse economy and that' something to consider. The best sierras will do maybe 9L/100.

A commodore for example will do that or less at 130km/h, a Hilux will do 10/100 and you'll actualy have room to fit stuff.
Author:  pete_79 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:59 am ]
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Marko_SJ wrote:
A commodore for example will do that or less at 130km/h

*cough* not all of them ;)

It will be different in the more remote areas, but for most people you'll rarely be more then 100km from the next servo.
Based on that, I found a 5 liter jerry in the roof basket was perfect for normal medium length trips and a 10 liter squat jerry up top only for longer trips.
But the Jimny actually does get under 10L/100km (not like that lemon lion I used to own).
Author:  Marko_SJ [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:12 am ]
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pete_79 wrote:
Marko_SJ wrote:
A commodore for example will do that or less at 130km/h

*cough* not all of them ;)

It will be different in the more remote areas, but for most people you'll rarely be more then 100km from the next servo.
Based on that, I found a 5 liter jerry in the roof basket was perfect for normal medium length trips and a 10 liter squat jerry up top only for longer trips.
But the Jimny actually does get under 10L/100km (not like that lemon lion I used to own).


You know what fuel consumption yours got (we all do too on this Suzuki forum now) and I know what mine gets.

To get mine to use fuel at your rate (13.5L/100 on the highway) I have to set cruise control for 160.

Sorry but you were chewing more fuel than the LS guys.

Edit: to make better sense. Steve's idea below is the best solution yet IMO.
Author:  steve125 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:16 am ]
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I used to run a jerry can on the rear door and keep my skinny 7.50/16 spare in the back (flat on the floor with a shelf built over it).

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Author:  4x4xzook [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:36 am ]
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Steve125.

I ran the same for over 2 years, police never battered an eyelids I had been pulled over for other reasons, they never mentioned the jerry can.
Albeit illegal at the time i didnt think it was.

It saved me a few times from the old trusty sierra fuel gauge.
Author:  Beanie12 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:24 am ]
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4x4xzook wrote:
Steve125.

I ran the same for over 2 years, police never battered an eyelids I had been pulled over for other reasons, they never mentioned the jerry can.
Albeit illegal at the time i didnt think it was.

It saved me a few times from the old trusty sierra fuel gauge.


Thanks, not a bad idea. Other idea I just had is to take the back seats out. That'll give me more space inside!!
Author:  got_bar_work [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:25 am ]
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U could always mount 2 on the sides above the wheel arch
Author:  alien [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:56 am ]
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I just assumed the seats were already out =)
Author:  got_bar_work [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:07 pm ]
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U could find a boat tank that would fit under the car and just use a small 12v transfer pump. Way cheaper then any long range tank
Author:  Beanie12 [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:16 pm ]
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alien wrote:
I just assumed the seats were already out =)


Haha yeh took a bit longer than it probably should've to come up with that!!

Thanks everyone for the tips. Will probably just use jerrys in the short term and see if I need to do more down the track.
Cheers!!
Author:  alien [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:46 pm ]
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Just make sure you have rubber matting (thick) under the cans and anywhere they touch the bodywork so the vibrations don't wear at the jerries, and strap them down as solidly as you can.

Also, be aware that even a perfectly sealed jerry can stored in the cab WILL smell like petrol once you spill just one drop on the outside of it, and it's VERY annoying driving with that stench!
Author:  laurie [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:24 pm ]
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Jiggle hose beats funnel or spout every day
Author:  shep [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:51 pm ]
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Plastic cans beat metal cans 100% always
Author:  shep [ Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:55 pm ]
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Any suzuki ever built beats a poxy commodore every time as well
Author:  Marko_SJ [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:20 am ]
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shep wrote:
Any suzuki ever built beats a poxy commodore every time as well



Nice troll.
Author:  pezz [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:18 am ]
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I just put fuel cans in the back.... ohh never mind, mines a ute ;)
Author:  dank [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:43 pm ]
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You can fit up a Vitara SWB fuel tank which is around 50L from memory. Its pretty easy to just cut off the old tank mounts and weld some new ones onto the rear chassis cross brace and the rear shock cross brace. will still leave room for the exhaust as well. LWB vitara tanks are a it wider.

I had a SWB vitara EFI tank in mine. EFI or Carby will work. The stock fuel pump will suck though the intank efi pump ore just replace is with fuel resistant hose.
Author:  Reubs [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:58 pm ]
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SWB SE Vitara tanks (EFI & Carb.) are still only 42L. SWB SV Vit tanks are larger but I doubt one would fit a Sierra SWB. Do a search as this question pops up regularly enough.
Author:  shep [ Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:45 pm ]
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Marko_SJ wrote:
shep wrote:
Any suzuki ever built beats a poxy commodore every time as well



Nice troll.


Really? You were the one comparing a taxi to a suzuki. How do taxis go in dunes?
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