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Author:  epitam [ Sun Dec 25, 2016 6:09 am ]
Post subject:  Coily with 1.6 and 32". Which axles?
Hello,
Like to know is you guys think a fully built (truss+chromoly axle front and rear) jimny axle will hold 32" on a coily with 1.6 engine...
Or here some sugestion for other replacment axles..

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Author:  greenzook89 [ Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
So are you running coily housings or Jimny?

Depending what you are wheeling the rears may be fine, you can always go full float with rear disk. The front will definitely need chromos. Tanshi (ADD Engineering) makes some killer front axles otherwise i have seen you can get longfields for the Jimny front.
Author:  epitam [ Sun Dec 25, 2016 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32". Which axles?
Right now i have the coily axles.. trussed.. the front i already bent once and the rear i've broke the diff.
Like to know if the jimny will hold 32". Not like the coily ones... but i heard the jimny isnt stronger that the coily axle.

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Author:  greenzook89 [ Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
epitam wrote:
Right now i have the coily axles.. trussed.. the front i already bent once and the rear i've broke the diff.
Like to know if the jimny will hold 32". Not like the coily ones... but i heard the jimny isnt stronger that the coily axle.

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Jimny rear centres seem to let go a lot more often than Sierra. Usually R&P failures.
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
Yep, I'd agree with that.
Author:  epitam [ Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32". Which axles?
So go for wt rear and front?
Afraid to loose the high pinion and the width and the more protected steering rod....
What do you think will be the best option?

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Author:  BlueSuzy [ Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
How do you drive? Nice and easy? or heavy on the throttle?

Unsure what is avaliable in Israel.
I would suggest Hilux/Pickup front, Hilux/Pickup rear or Bundera/RJ70 Landcruiser rear axle. (very similar, Just offset pumpkin)
They would probably be better with larger tyres. Similar width can be acheived. Larger everything. Highpinion avaliable with using RJ70 arms. FJ70/80/105 centre
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
Hilux axles for 32's? This isn't Pirate.
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
Please read again.

It doesn't make sense to replace sierra diffs with sierra diffs because he's breaking sierra diffs..

Thats why i asked how he drives and suggested they would be better with larger tyres. He's already spoa for 32's. :thefinger:


I guess you could make a hybrid Vit rear into front and run Vit rear,

What high pinion would you select for his prefered steering?
What if he doesn't want a custom setup?
What if he doesn't want to wait for axles to be made once they fail or leak?
Are Vitara's common in Israel for replacement parts once they are broken too?

The other option is what the weight of the car is referring to a recent thread. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=53521
It doesnt look real heavy to me, Almost stock weight

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Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
We don't have enough information to rule out leaf Sierra axles as suitable. Epitam hasn't explained what broke or why/how for the rear diff, but I haven't seen a rear axle or diff failure at 32" on a leaf Sierra, let alone a light one.

We all know coil front housings bend and they whole arrangement is garbage, but the failure of a rear diff before the front CV's implies another problem with the rear - it's not common.

I don't see the high pinion front axle as an advantage. The debatable improvement in tie rod protection is offset by a tiny front diff. Many cars (mine included) have shown it's possible to package a front panhard, dean link and tie rod.

Adding the weight and bulk of Hilux/RJ70 axles in order to run 32's would result in a net loss of capability over what Epitam has now in my opinion. I agree there would be an improvement in reliability. As you'd hope.

I'd run a Jimny front housing with ADD axles/EMPI CVs.
The rear should be fine (pending more information about the failure) but there's always the option of a floater.

Steve.
Author:  greenzook89 [ Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
Bogga broke a lot of axles on beadlocked 31s steve. But I'm sure weight was a factor.
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Coily with 1.6 and 32
Sure - But Epitam said "diff" not axle.
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