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| Author: | Twos company [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Input shaft how much is to much |
 Hope this shows a photo. Replace or its fine. How do i know Cheers Took gearbox out. Making a small whine. Had loads of sand and crud in bell housing and round throw out bearing. Gave a clean and will replace throw out and pilot maybe clutch. But before i give myself loads of uneccesary work i figured i would ask you guys Cheers Cant decide if to.take apart and rebuild kit or not. |
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| Author: | tanshi [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
thats too much |
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| Author: | Twos company [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
Thanks. So if i need to replace the shaft. I may as well do a rebuild. Do i need any special tools. I have the normal stuff. No pullers or presses. |
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| Author: | watermouse [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
You could get the worn spigot welded up and turned back down when you have the shaft out. A good engineering shop could do that for you. What is the gearbox from? |
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| Author: | Twos company [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
Sierra 1.3 soft top leafy 1994. Has a 1.6 block Based brisbane northside Would welding not weaken it and cost as much as a new one anyway. I certainly dont know anyone so would be paying for their time. Appreciate the help. I so want to have a go at a rebuild. Anyone got a FSM they could email me. |
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| Author: | watermouse [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
Just seen that Lowrange do 1.3 input shafts pretty cheap (USD129) so might be easier to go that route with one of their bearing and synchro kits. |
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| Author: | Mickc [ Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
You can try a double ball deep grove bearing instead of standard input bearing. It's the same diameters but wider Cant remember part number but bearing shop should have one. Fit flush on clutch side of fly wheel, the unworn part of shaft should be supported on the wider bearing. |
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| Author: | fordem [ Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
watermouse wrote: You could get the worn spigot welded up and turned back down when you have the shaft out. A good engineering shop could do that for you. Another option that does not involve heating the shaft and possibly destroying it is to turn it to a smaller diameter and then make an interference fit sleeve - as above, any good engineering shop should be able to handle that. |
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| Author: | alien [ Wed Feb 22, 2017 1:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
You might be able to get a used one out of a wreck from Suzistore?? https://www.4wdpartshop.com.au/make-an-enquiry.html |
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| Author: | Twos company [ Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
I like the idea of putting a wider bearing on. May work and I think I read a post somewhere so thanks for that. As an update I went to Suzi store in lawnton just coz it's close to me. They were unable to sell either a new or used input shaft. Stated he hadn't sold one in years. He suggested metal putty stuff on the shaft to fill the worn bit. Then shape it. I'm not keen on this option as it's unlikely to be round and stay on if I do it. He also said he would just stick it back and use it as it was. If I do is the only risk wearing the bearing premature or worse He quoted 400 for a transmission rebuild kit and about 400 in labour but then said it could cost more depending what they find. This was with me bringing the tranny into him off the car. I thought that was fairly steep considering low range sell a full rebuilt transmission for 600 The low range rebuild kit plus a new input shaft and postage was about 400 so I may go that way. I've never used them before what's delivery time like. I'm thinking change pilot bearing. Put it all back together as is. Drive it until the Low Range Stuff arrives then do a rebuild myself. |
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| Author: | alien [ Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
Suzistore (WA) is not affiliated with the one near you - worth a shot if you're in need of a used one at least. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
Get the double row bearing. |
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| Author: | Twos company [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
Bluesuzi you wouldnt know what size would you. If not ill take it down the bearing shop |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
6200 is for the single row. I used a rubber seal last time, ntn brand - LLU or 2rs would be fine. Not zz(metal seal) 5200 seems to be the Double row with the seals llu or 2rs etc * 14mm wide 4200 seems to be Double row no seals The only thing that can be tricky, Later on if you have to take the flywheel off for some reason, You have to pull the bearing out to get a socket or spanner onto the flywheel bolts. I used a dyna bolt to pull it out with a slide hammer(farm fab). Other ways can get it out though. Rebuilding the gearbox is fairly simple with a press. Just changing the input is even simpler. I may be able to supply another input if you go that way. |
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| Author: | Reubs [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
I reckon the simplest fix would be simply get another gearbox. Secondhand gearboxes are abundant. I gave one away 3 weeks ago. |
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| Author: | Twos company [ Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
Cheers guys useful info. I got the wider bearing today. Will see how it sits. Buesuzy definately interested in the input shaft if you find one. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Input shaft how much is to much |
Twos company wrote: Cheers guys useful info. I got the wider bearing today. Will see how it sits. Buesuzy definately interested in the input shaft if you find one. I have one in a parts gearbox. Just have to check it |
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