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Author:  Erik [ Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  What could it be?

Found this in a Zook that needed rescuing - could anyone please enlighten me?

:-)

Thank you

Author:  fordem [ Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could it be?

What's what? I see a picture of what appears to be a 16v G series Suzuki engine - the ignition coils suggest it's from a Baleno, could be a G13 or a G16 - if that's what you're asking about and you need a more definitive identification, go look for the engine number, should be near the bellhousing.

Author:  Erik [ Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:53 pm ]
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Thank you - didn't have time to get the number as it was getting dark before I had to choose to buy it or not and whether it was worth it. It's a G16 but you identified it by the ignition coils - Thanks, now I know. A moot subject really as it's already in and plated since 2013 - just nice to know.

Thanks again

Author:  rexhunta [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:38 am ]
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Agree, it's a baleno g16b by the external coilpacks and forward facing plenum.

Different type of setup with the fuel surge tank sitting so far up in the engine bay though, i'd be putting a different fuel pump on it, change the fuel lines and remove the tank.

Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:29 am ]
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Ive only ever seen rocker mounted coilpacks on balenos or dizzy type earlier models.
The g16b (or just the coilpacks) pictured looks like it may have come out of a x-90 i believe thay ran the coilpacks on the firewall like that
It does look like a baleno intake and the thermostat housing would appear to be at the rear of the head.

Author:  fordem [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:59 am ]
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Based on the parts catalogs, it appears the X-90s all had distributors.

Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:34 pm ]
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How odd def seen 2 with that coil setup

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:16 pm ]
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Agree. I have never seen coil pack X-90.

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 5:24 pm ]
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google agrees too - couldn't find an engine bay photo of a coil pack motor in an X90.

Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:34 pm ]
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Anyone seen a baleno with that coil arrangement ?

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:02 pm ]
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Yep. Pretty common. In a baleno they’re mounted to the head above the cam angle sensor.

Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:12 pm ]
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Yeah ive seen them mounted on the rocker cover in balenos but only ever seen them on the firewalls of x90

Author:  Erik [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:24 pm ]
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Thanks everybody - it's nice to know what I'll be working on.

It's in this so wish me luck

Author:  Erik [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:46 pm ]
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Oh, and it has a mystery box....

:-)

Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:10 pm ]
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Ems stinger or just an amp ?

Author:  Erik [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:16 pm ]
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I hope it's a Di-lithium Crystal Time Dilator Module

But labelled ST48019293 it's probably a crappy ECU made for horses circa 1738

shame

Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:18 pm ]
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Decent ecu

Author:  Erik [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:22 pm ]
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Really? Please, tell me more...

thanks

Author:  Erik [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:24 pm ]
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just got the pic and now understand your question.... will research
Have you had any experience with these? If so what makes them good? Thanks again

Author:  MrRocky [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could it be?

Full engine management system (ems) i used to run them on vl turbo comodoores. About 2k installed and tuned
Still reasonably common in aus, most performance shops sell as cheaper option to haltech.

Author:  Erik [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could it be?

Faaark! Great info, cheers.

Just watched this from 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw1k3Ul9evc

Author:  Erik [ Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:39 pm ]
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It also came with this poor creature...

Author:  rexhunta [ Fri Jan 29, 2021 8:44 am ]
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MrRocky wrote:
Anyone seen a baleno with that coil arrangement ?



Yep I had one. 98 model.


Image

Author:  MrRocky [ Fri Jan 29, 2021 12:13 pm ]
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Ahhh one could assume they must be a crossover model of sorts on the jump from dizzy baleno to rocker mounted coil packs. Much like the 88.5 model sierra

Author:  Erik [ Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could it be?

MrRocky wrote:
Full engine management system (ems) i used to run them on vl turbo comodoores. About 2k installed and tuned
Still reasonably common in aus, most performance shops sell as cheaper option to haltech.



You wouldn't still happen to have a copy of the Software to run it would you?

Author:  MrRocky [ Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What could it be?

The software is licensed
Tuning shops pay a fair bit of coin for it
Unless your very competent in tuning ecu software its not a job for the diy

Author:  Erik [ Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could it be?

MrRocky wrote:
The software is licensed
Tuning shops pay a fair bit of coin for it
Unless your very competent in tuning ecu software its not a job for the diy



Thanks, understood.
As I have no idea of the history, etc. I shall just tear the whole vehicle down and start again. The body needs work and the more I look, the more I shudder. :-)
Should I just get a stock ECU and loom to rebuild and get it going, then use the Stinger later if required?
The engine is probably cactus anyways and the current 'wiring' is an unknown entity.

Boomshanka

Author:  Erik [ Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:11 pm ]
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MrRocky wrote:
The software is licensed
Tuning shops pay a fair bit of coin for it
Unless your very competent in tuning ecu software its not a job for the diy


I came accross an old post about G16B conversion harnesses - do you still make them MrRocky?
How would I go about finding the correct computer for the engine?

:-)

Author:  MrRocky [ Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: What could it be?

Nah i dont have time for that stuff these days, people always seemed to try and change my harnesses by removing the fuse box to "improve" it and there car never runs right again then they spend big bucks chasing problems they have created :thefinger: too much hassle

Author:  Erik [ Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: What could it be?

MrRocky wrote:
Nah i dont have time for that stuff these days, people always seemed to try and change my harnesses by removing the fuse box to "improve" it and there car never runs right again then they spend big bucks chasing problems they have created :thefinger: too much hassle



Don't blame you mate

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