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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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 Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2021 9:59 pm |
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Found this in a Zook that needed rescuing - could anyone please enlighten me?  Thank you
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2655 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: JB420, APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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What's what? I see a picture of what appears to be a 16v G series Suzuki engine - the ignition coils suggest it's from a Baleno, could be a G13 or a G16 - if that's what you're asking about and you need a more definitive identification, go look for the engine number, should be near the bellhousing.
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
Vehicle: 96 Coily Ragtop
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Thank you - didn't have time to get the number as it was getting dark before I had to choose to buy it or not and whether it was worth it. It's a G16 but you identified it by the ignition coils - Thanks, now I know. A moot subject really as it's already in and plated since 2013 - just nice to know.
Thanks again
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rexhunta

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Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:03 am Posts: 212 Location: Leschenault, WA.
Vehicle: 2020 Vitara Turbo
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Agree, it's a baleno g16b by the external coilpacks and forward facing plenum.
Different type of setup with the fuel surge tank sitting so far up in the engine bay though, i'd be putting a different fuel pump on it, change the fuel lines and remove the tank.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Ive only ever seen rocker mounted coilpacks on balenos or dizzy type earlier models. The g16b (or just the coilpacks) pictured looks like it may have come out of a x-90 i believe thay ran the coilpacks on the firewall like that It does look like a baleno intake and the thermostat housing would appear to be at the rear of the head.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2655 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
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Based on the parts catalogs, it appears the X-90s all had distributors.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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How odd def seen 2 with that coil setup
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Agree. I have never seen coil pack X-90.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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google agrees too - couldn't find an engine bay photo of a coil pack motor in an X90.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Anyone seen a baleno with that coil arrangement ?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 7:02 pm |
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Yep. Pretty common. In a baleno they’re mounted to the head above the cam angle sensor.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Yeah ive seen them mounted on the rocker cover in balenos but only ever seen them on the firewalls of x90
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
Vehicle: 96 Coily Ragtop
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 Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:24 pm |
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Thanks everybody - it's nice to know what I'll be working on.
It's in this so wish me luck
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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Oh, and it has a mystery box.... 
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:10 pm |
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Ems stinger or just an amp ?
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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I hope it's a Di-lithium Crystal Time Dilator Module
But labelled ST48019293 it's probably a crappy ECU made for horses circa 1738
shame
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Decent ecu
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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Really? Please, tell me more...
thanks
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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just got the pic and now understand your question.... will research Have you had any experience with these? If so what makes them good? Thanks again
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Full engine management system (ems) i used to run them on vl turbo comodoores. About 2k installed and tuned Still reasonably common in aus, most performance shops sell as cheaper option to haltech.
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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 Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:39 pm |
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It also came with this poor creature...
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rexhunta

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Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:03 am Posts: 212 Location: Leschenault, WA.
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MrRocky wrote: Anyone seen a baleno with that coil arrangement ? Yep I had one. 98 model. 
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Ahhh one could assume they must be a crossover model of sorts on the jump from dizzy baleno to rocker mounted coil packs. Much like the 88.5 model sierra
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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MrRocky wrote: Full engine management system (ems) i used to run them on vl turbo comodoores. About 2k installed and tuned Still reasonably common in aus, most performance shops sell as cheaper option to haltech. You wouldn't still happen to have a copy of the Software to run it would you?
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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The software is licensed Tuning shops pay a fair bit of coin for it Unless your very competent in tuning ecu software its not a job for the diy
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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MrRocky wrote: The software is licensed Tuning shops pay a fair bit of coin for it Unless your very competent in tuning ecu software its not a job for the diy Thanks, understood. As I have no idea of the history, etc. I shall just tear the whole vehicle down and start again. The body needs work and the more I look, the more I shudder.  Should I just get a stock ECU and loom to rebuild and get it going, then use the Stinger later if required? The engine is probably cactus anyways and the current 'wiring' is an unknown entity. Boomshanka
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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MrRocky wrote: The software is licensed Tuning shops pay a fair bit of coin for it Unless your very competent in tuning ecu software its not a job for the diy I came accross an old post about G16B conversion harnesses - do you still make them MrRocky? How would I go about finding the correct computer for the engine? 
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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Nah i dont have time for that stuff these days, people always seemed to try and change my harnesses by removing the fuse box to "improve" it and there car never runs right again then they spend big bucks chasing problems they have created  too much hassle
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
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MrRocky wrote: Nah i dont have time for that stuff these days, people always seemed to try and change my harnesses by removing the fuse box to "improve" it and there car never runs right again then they spend big bucks chasing problems they have created  too much hassle Don't blame you mate
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