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Author:  31zook [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Smoke SOS signals. and engine Q's
Well i was knocked back for to much smoke so the mech said to much smoke... i cleaned the PCV valve, did an oil change and ran a fresh batch of fuel through it...
Here is how it runs, when you start it, it goes to about 1500rpm, you can take off the throttle cable and it makes no difference. it rev's very roughly to about 2500rpm then it feel like the clutch is slipping once above 3248rpm it picks up slightly, but nothing like my other zook... it idles but only cause the rev's are so high. There is smoke coming out of the rocker cover, is that ring's been told it is...

So to sum it all up I'm just trying to figure out what the hell is wrong... ring's, craby, rebuild, drive off cliff...
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:47 pm ]
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carby is fucked. rebuild it and see what happens. then once everything is good, drive it off a cliff that way it will never give you another problem again
Author:  31zook [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:57 pm ]
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Ok How much are carby rebuild kits?
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:04 pm ]
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you can get kits from repco and stuff for around $80 i believe, to get it done proffesionally, advisable, around $400. It is a lot more money to get done right BUT they do a lot more than stick a kit through it. Mine was pulled down completely and each individual componenet was acid dipped to get rid of any corrosion/rust that had built up, everything was replaced including and springs or anything that could get even a small amount of wear on it. The jets were replaced and the air/fuel mixtures were set up so that it will idle at 800rpm and it revs like a champ right up the rev range.
Author:  31zook [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:10 pm ]
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awsome im keen now if the carby i buy tomorrow makes all the difference ill rebuild one or get it done... What sort of shop would do carby rebuilds?
Author:  foolsp33d [ Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:56 pm ]
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a carby rebuild shop! should get extractors and pipe if u havnt already, then get it tuned ;)
Author:  eldo [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:34 am ]
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josh any good mechanic should be able to rebuild the carby, although the suggestion to go to a carby/efi specialist is a good one. if youre gonna update the engine then just get it running and fit the 1.6 after rego
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:50 am ]
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yeah i would only go to a shop that only does carbies or else you will end up with second grade work
Author:  ball [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:38 am ]
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Zook_Fan wrote:
yeah i would only go to a shop that only does carbies or else you will end up with second grade work



That's a pretty bold statement to make
Author:  royce [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:03 am ]
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ball wrote:
Zook_Fan wrote:
yeah i would only go to a shop that only does carbies or else you will end up with second grade work



That's a pretty bold statement to make


come and experiance some city mechanics, I am suprised some even know which end the oil goes in!!!!
Author:  ball [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:38 am ]
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royce wrote:
ball wrote:
Zook_Fan wrote:
yeah i would only go to a shop that only does carbies or else you will end up with second grade work



That's a pretty bold statement to make


come and experiance some city mechanics, I am suprised some even know which end the oil goes in!!!!


They are not mechanics they are technicians, not the same thing as far as I am concerned.

Find someone that knows how to use spanners and shit, not plug in a diagnostics computer to try and find problems
Author:  31zook [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:06 pm ]
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haha im rebuilding a subaru/VW shop atm and the mechanic's there carry around a big computer and plug it in everytime there is a service. One VW there everytime you opened the door the lights would tilt down... stupid mod if ya ask me...lol
Author:  Brett [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:01 pm ]
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give us some more details. is it blue smoke or black? are your plugs black. can you smell fuel from the back of the car?

with the rocker breather it will always have a little bit of air coming out but when the rings go it pumping out lots of air.
Author:  31zook [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:49 pm ]
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nah the smoke is not coloured.. just wood burning smoke... the spark plugs are black (rich?) dunno bout the fuel in the back? I bought a rebuild kit today so I'm ripping down my carby (read: steep learning curve, and a mate says that he destroyed 2 sierra carbys trying to do it. And i was quoted $500 for mine fully acid dipped rebuild and $700 for one he had on the shelf then $1200 for a webber which i can't run for rego an way) The kit cost $100 from repco and there is another sierra carby I'm getting for free so if this one is fully funked by the time I'm done with it then ill just bit the bullet and get it done pro. I just hope i pull it off...
Author:  woody1 [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:05 pm ]
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31zook wrote:
nah the smoke is not coloured.. just wood burning smoke... the spark plugs are black (rich?) dunno bout the fuel in the back? I bought a rebuild kit today so I'm ripping down my carby (read: steep learning curve, and a mate says that he destroyed 2 sierra carbys trying to do it. And i was quoted $500 for mine fully acid dipped rebuild and $700 for one he had on the shelf then $1200 for a webber which i can't run for rego an way) The kit cost $100 from repco and there is another sierra carby I'm getting for free so if this one is fully funked by the time I'm done with it then ill just bit the bullet and get it done pro. I just hope i pull it off...

If ya still have dramas mate you can try Dr Mak at East Maitland.They done my rebuild and i'm very happy.Bondy down there is pretty clued up.
Just say I sent ya down.
Author:  31zook [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:38 pm ]
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what's his details? And price for a rebuild... it's not an overly advertised shop around here...
Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:21 pm ]
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31zook wrote:
nah the smoke is not coloured.. just wood burning smoke... the spark plugs are black (rich?) dunno bout the fuel in the back? I bought a rebuild kit today so I'm ripping down my carby (read: steep learning curve, and a mate says that he destroyed 2 sierra carbys trying to do it. And i was quoted $500 for mine fully acid dipped rebuild and $700 for one he had on the shelf then $1200 for a webber which i can't run for rego an way) The kit cost $100 from repco and there is another sierra carby I'm getting for free so if this one is fully funked by the time I'm done with it then ill just bit the bullet and get it done pro. I just hope i pull it off...


for that sort of coin $ i would fuck the carby off altogether & grab this... no side angle drama's, cold start blah blah blah...

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=5827


arggh crap.... sold pending payment!!
Author:  woody1 [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:42 pm ]
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31zook wrote:
what's his details? And price for a rebuild... it's not an overly advertised shop around here...

Doctor Mak Engine Reconditioning
Address: 33 Chifley St, East Maitland, NSW, 2323
Phone Number: (02) 49341321

Just speak to Glenda
Author:  steve [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:51 pm ]
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royce wrote:
ball wrote:
Zook_Fan wrote:
yeah i would only go to a shop that only does carbies or else you will end up with second grade work



That's a pretty bold statement to make


come and experiance some city mechanics, I am suprised some even know which end the oil goes in!!!!


yeah a lot of Mechanics would remove the carby and send it to a carby specialist anyway
Author:  Rockhopper [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:30 pm ]
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Most mechanics I see these days are remove and replace technicians. Ask them to pull something down and rebuild it and they're stuffed.
@ 31 Zook, from what you posted it sounds like maybe your automatic choke is stuck on.
Author:  ball [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:48 pm ]
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Rockhopper wrote:
Most mechanics I see these days are remove and replace technicians. Ask them to pull something down and rebuild it and they're stuffed.
@ 31 Zook, from what you posted it sounds like maybe your automatic choke is stuck on.


accessory and spare parts fitters is all they are
Author:  31zook [ Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Smoke SOS signals. and engine Q's
Hey i spent some of today pulling down my carby and replacing some parts. Im being super careful but there is still springs and stuff falling out as i turn it over...do'h ah well... It has to go for a blueslip and it's in need of all standard parts... plus try to register a truck like mine on my P's with an efi setup...
Author:  Brett [ Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:45 am ]
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swap the carby out of your swb get the slip and you'll find out if its the carby.
Author:  31zook [ Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:01 pm ]
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ah i want to have at least on car going...lol
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