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Author:  pickle2589 [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:12 am ]
Post subject:  RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

hey
people have been saying a good modification to make is an RUF and the using hilux front springs in the rear. would a suitably extension to this modifcation to be and RUF with 2" lifted springs and 2" lifted hilux front springs in the rear?

cheers guys

Author:  want33s [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

Sierra springs are 50mm wide.... Hilux springs are 60mm wide so it's not really a bolt in mod.

Author:  31zook [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

Not unless your engineering it and good at fab or have $$$$.

Author:  pickle2589 [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

ok. nothing seems to be easy unfortunately. i'm more than capable of fabricating (well a friends of mine is) so long as its nothing crazy.

is there an easy way of getting more than 2 inches of lift and a reasonable amount of flex that can be engineered and is not exorbitantly eexpensive?

im more lost than ever.

Author:  pickle2589 [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

i realise that that question cant really be answered otherwise everybody would be doing that particular mod.

Author:  31zook [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

yes and no. being able to get awesome flex isn't a super cheap road usually. But if your after that amazement factor then spring the crap out of it, but lockers and slightly muddies will not need engineering and is going to be more astonishing when you drive what looks to be a nearly standard truck up the hard line... My2c

Author:  dank [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:30 am ]
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according to a good source hilux springs can squeeze into sierra mounts with a bit of lovin' but that doesn't make it right to do...although it is and has been done.

Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

pickle2589 wrote:
hey
people have been saying a good modification to make is an RUF and the using hilux front springs in the rear. would a suitably extension to this modifcation to be and RUF with 2" lifted springs and 2" lifted hilux front springs in the rear?

cheers guys


Just did this mod myself. Full RUF on 2" lifted rears, chassis extension and relocated shackle hangers with 2" LN65 Fronts at the back. It required custom shackle hangers for rear, but the 60mm spring fits into the fixed hanger.....just. I am only running 3 of the leaves in the rear, and 3 in the front.

I also did a U-bolt flip at the same time using the flat bottom forged U-bolts from the hilux front ( call carrols about these). had to make my own sandwich plate and mounted some sierra front bump stop rubbers to the plate.

You should also note that the hilux fronts will move your diff back 80mm, so either a longer tailshaft is required ( best solution) or 2 1.25" spacers ( one at each end). I have used spacers as an interim fix.

All in all I am happy with the result however I don't get as much flex in the rear as I would have expected. I have put this down to the fact that the leaves are 60mm wide, and do not want to twist under the measly wieght of 1 litre diffs and 30's. But I do use my ute as a ute quite often, so wider springs do help hold the arse end up a bit better. Catch 22 really.

Here is a pic. You can sort of see how the front diff has moved forward from the full RUF. Rear is back heaps, but all in all it looks reasonably stock.
Image

Well thats my piece.

Cheers
Peter

Author:  Damo [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

Fatzook wrote:
pickle2589 wrote:
hey
people have been saying a good modification to make is an RUF and the using hilux front springs in the rear. would a suitably extension to this modifcation to be and RUF with 2" lifted springs and 2" lifted hilux front springs in the rear?

cheers guys


Just did this mod myself. Full RUF on 2" lifted rears, chassis extension and relocated shackle hangers with 2" LN65 Fronts at the back. It required custom shackle hangers for rear, but the 60mm spring fits into the fixed hanger.....just. I am only running 3 of the leaves in the rear, and 3 in the front.

I also did a U-bolt flip at the same time using the flat bottom forged U-bolts from the hilux front ( call carrols about these). had to make my own sandwich plate and mounted some sierra front bump stop rubbers to the plate.

You should also note that the hilux fronts will move your diff back 80mm, so either a longer tailshaft is required ( best solution) or 2 1.25" spacers ( one at each end). I have used spacers as an interim fix.

All in all I am happy with the result however I don't get as much flex in the rear as I would have expected. I have put this down to the fact that the leaves are 60mm wide, and do not want to twist under the measly wieght of 1 litre diffs and 30's. But I do use my ute as a ute quite often, so wider springs do help hold the arse end up a bit better. Catch 22 really.

Well thats my piece.

Cheers
Peter


Any pics of your u-bolts Pete?

I have some Hilux springs and was thinking about doing this at some point. What you're saying about it being reasonably stiff is actually what i'm after, so it might work out pretty well for me. I'm not 100% sure where my springs came from though so it could be a bit of a guessing game. Any chance you could measure yours for me?

ta!

Damo.

Author:  pickle2589 [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

thanks Fatzook for the reply. glad to hear that it can and has been done albeit without the ultimate desired response. cheers

Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

pickle2589 wrote:
thanks Fatzook for the reply. glad to hear that it can and has been done albeit without the ultimate desired response. cheers


Not engineered, but it would be a 2" sus lift so who cares really. :D

Author:  Fatzook [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

Damo I can get pics when I get back home (2 weeks). Ute is stuffed in under the house so I can't even suggest a drive-by :D

Author:  Damo [ Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: RUF and Hilux springs for LWB. YES/NO?

Fatzook wrote:
Damo I can get pics when I get back home (2 weeks). Ute is stuffed in under the house so I can't even suggest a drive-by :D


No stress. Nothing I do happens in a hurry anyway :lol:

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