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Author:  sbyard [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Gear oil change
Hey, just wondering if there were any key tips to changing the gearbox oil.

I have an 89 sierra if that makes any difference.

Cheers
Author:  Trojan [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
Put the drain plug in before filling back up.
Author:  SuziBlu [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
Trojan wrote:
Put the drain plug in before filling back up.


Doh, is that why I have so much oil on my shed floor, bugga.
Author:  sbyard [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
Ok let me elaborate, I haven't done it before and it looks awkward. I have no photo guides, and the shitty drawings in the car manual aren't exactly crystal clear. Do I need any specific tools like a funnel etc? Is there a process to it or anything specific?

Or is it simply drain and re-fill
Author:  Ben_Sierra [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
It helps to take it for a drive first to warm up the oil - it drains a bit easier this way. Tke out the drain plus and the fill/level plug and let the oil drain out completely.

As mentioned above, its pretty important to replace the drain plug once its finished draining... ;)

Gearbox fill plugs can be awkward to pour oil into. Some sort of siphon pump is often handy, or do what I did last time and squirt it in from a (clean) dishwashing liquid bottle. Fill it just to the level of the plug.

Put the fill plug back in, then drive it away!
Author:  Rusho [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
Just in case plan....undo the filler first. I always to this just in case you drain the oil and can't fill it up Its not a good look.
Author:  Scrawny [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
You will need a 3/8 drive rachet or a 10mm square drive to un-do the plugs. You will also need some kind of syringe or similar to get the oil back in. You can't just simply pour the oil back in.

Something like this is ideal

Image
Author:  kreecha [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
Hi sbyard,
sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.

I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.

Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?

Cheers, Davo.
Author:  sbyard [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
Ben_Sierra wrote:
It helps to take it for a drive first to warm up the oil - it drains a bit easier this way. Tke out the drain plus and the fill/level plug and let the oil drain out completely.

As mentioned above, its pretty important to replace the drain plug once its finished draining... ;)

Gearbox fill plugs can be awkward to pour oil into. Some sort of siphon pump is often handy, or do what I did last time and squirt it in from a (clean) dishwashing liquid bottle. Fill it just to the level of the plug.

Put the fill plug back in, then drive it away!


Thank you for your help. Please excuse my lack of knowledge.

Is there a separate oil fill spot for the low range section?
I think I may be looking at the wrong section of the car. How far down is the gear box fill point, if underneath the car?
Author:  Scrawny [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
kreecha wrote:
Hi sbyard,
sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.

I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.

Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?

Cheers, Davo.


Try and track down some new ones, either Suzuki genuine or second hand. They are easy to round out if they are too tight.
Author:  Ben_Sierra [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
sbyard wrote:
Ben_Sierra wrote:
It helps to take it for a drive first to warm up the oil - it drains a bit easier this way. Tke out the drain plus and the fill/level plug and let the oil drain out completely.

As mentioned above, its pretty important to replace the drain plug once its finished draining... ;)

Gearbox fill plugs can be awkward to pour oil into. Some sort of siphon pump is often handy, or do what I did last time and squirt it in from a (clean) dishwashing liquid bottle. Fill it just to the level of the plug.

Put the fill plug back in, then drive it away!


Thank you for your help. Please excuse my lack of knowledge.

Is there a separate oil fill spot for the low range section?
I think I may be looking at the wrong section of the car. How far down is the gear box fill point, if underneath the car?



The transfer case and gearbox are seperate, if that is what you mean. The fill plug should be on the side of the gearbox, underneath the car.

Another point thats worth noting: gearbox oil stinks, so it pays not to make a mess while you are doing this.

Don't worry about the lack of knowledge, we all have to start somewhere.
Author:  kreecha [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
ScrawnC wrote:
kreecha wrote:
Hi sbyard,
sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.

I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.

Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?

Cheers, Davo.


Try and track down some new ones, either Suzuki genuine or second hand. They are easy to round out if they are too tight.


Shit so I gotta stick with them 10mm square drive jobbies? :(
Author:  sbyard [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
The reason I was checking the oil is because the other day it was stuck in reverse, as the screw the gear stick pivots off had sheared. I replaced that, and it seems to be working, except that now its making a noise, that seems to be coming from the gearbox. Just checked the oil level in the box and its full.

So now I'm stumped as to what the noise is?

Any ideas?

Reckon I can drive on it?
Author:  Taff [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
kreecha wrote:
ScrawnC wrote:
kreecha wrote:
Hi sbyard,
sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.

I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.

Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?

Cheers, Davo.


Try and track down some new ones, either Suzuki genuine or second hand. They are easy to round out if they are too tight.


Shit so I gotta stick with them 10mm square drive jobbies? :(


You can weld a nut of your choice to them :wink:
Author:  Scrawny [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
sbyard wrote:
The reason I was checking the oil is because the other day it was stuck in reverse, as the screw the gear stick pivots off had sheared. I replaced that, and it seems to be working, except that now its making a noise, that seems to be coming from the gearbox. Just checked the oil level in the box and its full.

So now I'm stumped as to what the noise is?

Any ideas?

Reckon I can drive on it?


Where did the sheared off bit go?
Author:  sbyard [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
ScrawnC wrote:
sbyard wrote:
The reason I was checking the oil is because the other day it was stuck in reverse, as the screw the gear stick pivots off had sheared. I replaced that, and it seems to be working, except that now its making a noise, that seems to be coming from the gearbox. Just checked the oil level in the box and its full.

So now I'm stumped as to what the noise is?

Any ideas?

Reckon I can drive on it?


Where did the sheared off bit go?


Couldnt find it. I may have cleaned it out.

I think the noise is coming from the clutch plate. Cause like I said, the noise only happens when clutch is out. I also havnt put the cover back on, so there nothing insulating the noise.....
Author:  Scrawny [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
So maybe clutch release bearing or input shaft bearing. Change oil as planned and see what happens
Author:  sbyard [ Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
ScrawnC wrote:
So maybe clutch release bearing or input shaft bearing. Change oil as planned and see what happens


If it is that, can I still drive on it?
Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Oct 17, 2009 12:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
Yep, if that's the problem
Author:  ZOOKCREW [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
ScrawnC wrote:
You will need a 3/8 drive rachet or a 10mm square drive to un-do the plugs. You will also need some kind of syringe or similar to get the oil back in. You can't just simply pour the oil back in.

Something like this is ideal

Image
Author:  steak_knife [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
ZOOKCREW wrote:
ScrawnC wrote:
You will need a 3/8 drive rachet or a 10mm square drive to un-do the plugs. You will also need some kind of syringe or similar to get the oil back in. You can't just simply pour the oil back in.

Something like this is ideal

Image


That`s what i thort to. :? :lol:
Author:  SuziBlu [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
you did not, you just wanted to add another post, hehe.
Author:  steak_knife [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
SuziBlu wrote:
you did not, you just wanted to add another post, hehe.


Yes, But I fail to see the problem.
Author:  Trojan [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
kreecha wrote:
ScrawnC wrote:
kreecha wrote:
Hi sbyard,
sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.

I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.

Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?

Cheers, Davo.


Try and track down some new ones, either Suzuki genuine or second hand. They are easy to round out if they are too tight.


Shit so I gotta stick with them 10mm square drive jobbies? :(


There really isn't anything wrong with the square drive ones, when you use a 10mm square drive socket. It's a worthwhile investment to get one.
Author:  SuziBlu [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
steknig wrote:
SuziBlu wrote:
you did not, you just wanted to add another post, hehe.


Yes, But I fail to see the problem.


heheheheheheheeeee recon, sorry
Author:  steak_knife [ Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
SuziBlu wrote:
steknig wrote:
SuziBlu wrote:
you did not, you just wanted to add another post, hehe.


Yes, But I fail to see the problem.


heheheheheheheeeee recon, sorry


What for? Most people would of just called me a post whore for some unknown reason :roll: :? 8O
Author:  Lokidog [ Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
Author:  Che [ Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
I used my socket wrench. Didn't damage the plug, worked a treat
Author:  Lokidog [ Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
^^ Don't I run the risk of damaging the drain and fill plugs using 3/8 socket wrench?

Oh and Merry Christmas :)
Author:  steak_knife [ Fri Dec 24, 2010 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Gear oil change
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/8-10mm-S ... 0581621803

Tis the only one's I could find..

I use 3/8th, yes you run a risk but most time's you'll get em out, depends on how tight they have been done up..
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