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Author:  want33s [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Setting timing G16B bridging terminals

What's the go with setting the timing on a G16b?
I have been told I need to bridge some of the terminals in the diagnostic plug to set static timing. If so, which ones?
Is it supposed to be set at 10BTDC?

Author:  royce [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:32 pm ]
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Yeah you are, I just wound mine till it pinged and backed it off some, no bridging required :)

Author:  want33s [ Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:47 pm ]
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OK thanks Royce, that's what I would have done eventually..

I managed to find it in the FSM in the download section.
Image

Author:  ninjadaniel [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:00 am ]
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remember to remove the wire before you go driving or your ignition wont advance- this happened to a mate of mine and nearly ruined a 10k engine :-(

Author:  shandy92 [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:01 am ]
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when i did mine i found the plug behind the drivers side head lamp, i think it has 5 holes, 3 on top and 2 on the bottom.

good luck with it
shandy

Author:  Taff [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:04 am ]
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I set mine without bridging it first then realised your meant to and went to set it again with the plug bridged. It was in the same spot.

Is it really nessecary?

Author:  steak_knife [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:10 am ]
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ninjadaniel wrote:
remember to remove the wire before you go driving or your ignition wont advance- this happened to a mate of mine and nearly ruined a 10k engine :-(


It's called base timing, ecu won't advance while setting.
I rarely use it unless trouble shooting a problem or if the head has been off, thay are normally set & forget..

Author:  Munster [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:28 pm ]
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Does anybody know which pins to bridge on a six pin plug?

Author:  steak_knife [ Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:42 am ]
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want33s wrote:
OK thanks Royce, that's what I would have done eventually..

I managed to find it in the FSM in the download section.
Image


No4 pin to ground going by that..

Author:  royce [ Sat May 19, 2012 5:41 pm ]
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Can somebody describe this pic for me, on my phone and its all fuzzy
Or tell me which colours the bridge

Author:  stockman [ Sat May 19, 2012 5:53 pm ]
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It's that small I cant read it.

Author:  matty_wall [ Sat May 19, 2012 8:09 pm ]
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On my GTI I bridged black with vio/green. I cant see any colours being described in that picture but by the looks of it they are bridging the wire that next to the ground wire.
Also, i bridged it before i started the car othersie it wouldnt lock the timing

Author:  royce [ Sat May 19, 2012 8:16 pm ]
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I just guessed, reckon I might have to guess a bit more into it

Author:  stockman [ Sat May 19, 2012 8:31 pm ]
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I did try searching the webs but all I could find was dead links :(

Author:  christover1 [ Sat May 19, 2012 9:38 pm ]
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Looks like I set my timing wrong. :oops:
Just did it at warm idle in P.
With a Timing light on No 4, and marks on crank pulley, I think.

I just checked the bonnet info stickers.
Supposed to be in Neutral with a connector shorted.

So I'd better look into this.
Can't see s**t on that pic,
am looking for a fsm now.
Where is this connector?(tis too dark outside)

Mines a 93 Dizzy type if that makes a difference

Author:  christover1 [ Sat May 19, 2012 10:20 pm ]
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Image

Author:  christover1 [ Sat May 19, 2012 10:21 pm ]
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Image

Author:  christover1 [ Sun May 20, 2012 2:55 pm ]
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In my under bonnet stickers, it shows a diagram of which contacts to bridge.
Things are easier to see in daylight :oops:

It was already perfectly timed,
sometimes your luck runs good.

Tested properly, it read exactly 5 btdc.
I then checked without the bridge,
and it was reading a fluctuating 8 ish.

So I musta been a bit rough on the first timing :oops:

Author:  royce [ Sun May 20, 2012 3:51 pm ]
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While you have your book out, whats it say for valve clearance? there seems to be a lot of variety for the same head and I might have mine a little loose (or killed a piston)

Author:  christover1 [ Sun May 20, 2012 4:21 pm ]
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royce wrote:
While you have your book out, whats it say for valve clearance? there seems to be a lot of variety for the same head and I might have mine a little loose (or killed a piston)


I used this to set mine http://www.suzimotive.com.au/technical.htm

Can't find any valve clearances where I got that info

Author:  royce [ Sun May 20, 2012 5:06 pm ]
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christover1 wrote:
royce wrote:
While you have your book out, whats it say for valve clearance? there seems to be a lot of variety for the same head and I might have mine a little loose (or killed a piston)


I used this to set mine http://www.suzimotive.com.au/technical.htm

Can't find any valve clearances where I got that info


0.08-0.12? thats what has me worried, cause G13BB and G16B for Baleno are different

mines set to a loose .13, might have another crack at it

Author:  Bruce [ Sun May 20, 2012 5:11 pm ]
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Would the manual I have in the shed help you Royce? It does say Vitara but it might only cover Carb models?

Author:  christover1 [ Sun May 20, 2012 5:23 pm ]
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My import engine was a 95 Swift 4wd G16A, but was 16V efi.
So I used Vitara/Swift G16B settings.
Chose mid way at .10 for inlet and exhaust.
Seems to be running ok,
though not sure I could hear valve rattle any more anyway.
People with good ears tell me it sounds good.

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