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| Author: | eldo [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1.3 |
as above, do i need an engineers cert to do the conversion? or is it just a blue slip? |
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
For an accurate answer, I would ring the NSW road traffic authority. |
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| Author: | v.w.dave [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
If it is a motor that is not fitted from factory in that car it needs to be engineered. meaning if it is a different base motor. |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
athol should do it tho his not passing 31s on zooks anymore... and 33s are his limit on lux conversion |
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| Author: | Nik [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
When I did mine (recently) it does need to be engineered although its a minor thing. Cant remember the exact wording but its somthing like a v6 dunnydore would be a "conversion" but a vit 1600 is a swap as its such a small increase and its still suzuki and all but bolts in. Dont quote me on the wording but you get the idea. Nik |
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| Author: | appsie [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
mine is engineered for the g16b.I showed him the engine mounts and the adaptor plate for the box.He barely cared tho as hes seen so many done and knows its bolt up. Its on the report as just being replaced with 1.6 from vit bla bla.His main concern was that all polution gear was correct and cat/exhaust was good.Then commented on neat wiring.Then the partial blue slip for all the mods on the report were smooth sailing |
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| Author: | eldo [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
appsie wrote: mine is engineered for the g16b.I showed him the engine mounts and the adaptor plate for the box.He barely cared tho as hes seen so many done and knows its bolt up.
Its on the report as just being replaced with 1.6 from vit bla bla.His main concern was that all polution gear was correct and cat/exhaust was good.Then commented on neat wiring.Then the partial blue slip for all the mods on the report were smooth sailing which engineer did your certificate? |
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| Author: | appsie [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
phill scott automotive. Located around grafton area,nice bloke knows his shit.Has recently passed two zuks in town here with lux diffs 35s etc.He drives them etc and wont pass them if they aint good. Was more worried about my loose steering box then the motor |
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| Author: | eldo [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
shit i reckon grafton is about 650km out of my way |
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| Author: | appsie [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
yeh i ment to add that.He drives to you....well did to me anyway.He does alot of the north west about every 3 weeks he comes here.But still as big a drive,dont know how far he goes. |
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| Author: | Nik [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
If you use a newcastle based engineer be careful which one you pic... Btw what year did vits come out with cat converters or did they always have them? Nik |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
haha i know who your refering to...
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
Nik wrote: If you use a newcastle based engineer be careful which one you pic...
Btw what year did vits come out with cat converters or did they always have them? Nik My carb 91 sierra had a cat convertor.. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
BlueSuzy wrote: Nik wrote: If you use a newcastle based engineer be careful which one you pic... Btw what year did vits come out with cat converters or did they always have them? Nik My carb 91 sierra had a cat convertor.. Anything that came from factory ULP has a cat, 88 or 89 I think was the change over from leaded. |
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| Author: | Nik [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
The reason Im asking is I have a vit motor that I bought of my hairdressers sisters butcher neighbour and all I know is that its NOT stolen and its now legaly registered in myt zuk. But the rta have said find out what model its from and if they came with a cat. Fit one if it did but dont if it didnt so they have left if open for me. Now I wouldnt take a cat out of a vehicle that had one but my 85 model didnt have one and its been left open wether I fit one I just have to say what year its from If you read inbetween the lines they have given me. Normally Id just do it but with all the hoops Ive had to jump through (offsett on rims 5mm to much so 4 new rims etc) Im running short on cash 
Nik |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
If it's efi you need a cat, if thay don't care, leave it as is. |
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| Author: | Trojan [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
steknig wrote: Anything that came from factory ULP has a cat, 88 or 89 I think was the change over from leaded.
Not correct. Depends on the catergory of vehicle and the relevant ADR it needed to be compliant with. Many vehicles like 4wd's and commercial vehicles were exempt from certain ADR's when they were built, including Emmission Standards. 1986 was the changeover year from ADR 27 to ADR 37/00 and 1997 was when ADR 37/01 came in, then from 2003 they've been superseded by ADR 79/xx (euro standards). So any vehicle built between 1986 to 1997 which was exempt from ADR 37/00, good chance it's unleaded, possibly even EFI and doesn't have a Cat Convertor and not required to. Still doesn't help Nik out, but it's just to point out that an unleaded vehicle doesn't necessarily have to have a cat by law, depending on what it is. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
Trojan wrote: steknig wrote: Anything that came from factory ULP has a cat, 88 or 89 I think was the change over from leaded. Not correct. Depends on the catergory of vehicle and the relevant ADR it needed to be compliant with. Many vehicles like 4wd's and commercial vehicles were exempt from certain ADR's when they were built, including Emmission Standards. 1986 was the changeover year from ADR 27 to ADR 37/00 and 1997 was when ADR 37/01 came in, then from 2003 they've been superseded by ADR 79/xx (euro standards). So any vehicle built between 1986 to 1997 which was exempt from ADR 37/00, good chance it's unleaded, possibly even EFI and doesn't have a Cat Convertor and not required to. Still doesn't help Nik out, but it's just to point out that an unleaded vehicle doesn't necessarily have to have a cat by law, depending on what it is. So you are Tron!!! |
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| Author: | Nik [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
Ok different question, what was the 1st year of vit 1600? Nik |
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| Author: | brendan [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
31zook wrote: athol should do it tho his not passing 31s on zooks anymore... and 33s are his limit on lux conversion
how could he not pass it anymore if he did? so he was dodgy passing them before? |
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| Author: | Joe [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
Nik wrote: Ok different question, what was the 1st year of vit 1600?
Nik 88 im pretty sure |
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| Author: | Trojan [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
brendan wrote: how could he not pass it anymore if he did? so he was dodgy passing them before?
Wouldn't say he was dodgy passing them before. The RTA changed the goal posts on what's required to pass larger diameter tyres. My understanding is anything larger then 2" they now want an abridged brake test done on the vehicle as apposed to just a normal brake test. Once you look into whats involved in that, it's quite costly and fairly harsh on the vehicles tyres and brakes. |
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| Author: | zooker [ Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
On the topic of cat converters.. Does anyone have, or can tell me if an 87 LWB sierra came with a cat or not? At the moment mine doesnt have one but I was planning on putting one in so I dont get fined, but if they didnt come with one then I wont waste the money. |
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| Author: | Rockhopper [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
Trojan wrote: brendan wrote: how could he not pass it anymore if he did? so he was dodgy passing them before? Wouldn't say he was dodgy passing them before. The RTA changed the goal posts on what's required to pass larger diameter tyres. My understanding is anything larger then 2" they now want an abridged brake test done on the vehicle as apposed to just a normal brake test. Once you look into whats involved in that, it's quite costly and fairly harsh on the vehicles tyres and brakes. Thsoe new laws I believe have not become effective yet because of the backlash of the 4wd community when they were announced. The state government was in talks with 4wd groups to make the law feasible to 4wd owners. |
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| Author: | Trojan [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
Rockhopper wrote: Thsoe new laws I believe have not become effective yet because of the backlash of the 4wd community when they were announced. The state government was in talks with 4wd groups to make the law feasible to 4wd owners.
The abridged brake test thing was around before VSI50 raised it's ugly head. It's only one of those requirements of proving your brakes are still up to the task of stopping a vehicle with much larger tyres. Some engineers are still getting around it somehow, whilst other just won't do it. |
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| Author: | Nik [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: in NSW is an engineers cert needed to fit 1.6 into NT 1. |
So if vits came out in 88 they probly all had cats? I may have to do the abridged brake test yet to confirm my braking system works now if gone to lux diffs but we are trying to get around that. Nik |
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