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Author:  Saam [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Drivetrain vibe continues....

whats in there that stops play in the jack shaft / output shaft is there a bush or a bearing ? do i need to pull the gearbox apart to get in there ? could it cause stupid drive train vibrations under load.

sam

Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

Thay all have a "bit" of play, uni's are the main culprit.

Thay rely on the out put shaft bearing's & the in put of the jack shaft a lil bit, i'd be having a REAL good look at the uni's.

Author:  Saam [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

it's seems to be excessive play, when you say jack shaft input do you mean the spline ? it seems there there should be a bush of some description in the end of the gearbox. i saw a pic which looked like it has a metal bush in there with a spiral on it i dunno

Author:  Saam [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

Image like this thing in ere

Author:  steak_knife [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

Saam wrote:
it's seems to be excessive play, when you say jack shaft input do you mean the spline ? it seems there there should be a bush of some description in there


No, where the seal run's, how much play side to side do you have ?(turning)
I have seen a lot of play in these with no prob's.
Some out put shaft spline's have a coating on them to reduce the play in them, mine has it. Can't remember what it is tho. but no bush

Author:  Saam [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

right well it seems to have a fair bit of side to side movement, i can not see anywhere else in my drive train that i could be having problems :( and i am so fucking sick of this vibration

Author:  want33s [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

Sam is it a harmonic vibration or constant?
Harmonic= fades in and out repeatedly at particular speeds.
Constant = well ummm constant.

Author:  Saam [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

harmonic, but generally feels rough for the rest of the time

Author:  Saam [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

different spots in different gears and more so under load, so takeoffs and up hill,accelerating around corners, even worse cornering up hills and such

Author:  want33s [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

Without going for a drive in it and feeling it firsthand all I can suggest is check stuff like:
Wheel balance.
Bent axle.
Buckled rim.
Bent tailshaft.
Uni's.... Did you replace that one I spotted yet?
Hubs unlocking properly.

Process of elimination... Unfortunately.

Author:  Saam [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

wheel balance is fine has had two sets of wheels on it both felt exactly the same.
bent axle... rear housing is still a bit gay so maybe that's it.
rims are fine same as wheel balance.
tail shaft had been balanced that was the first step i did ages ago.
both tail shaft unis are brand new matsuba ones and are perfect now did that day after.
hubs are fine we had a camera under the car and the front shaft did not spin.

Author:  Saam [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

dunno about axles though.. thing is you can feel it in the transfer case lever..

Author:  want33s [ Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

Saam wrote:
dunno about axles though.. thing is you can feel it in the transfer case lever..

Info so far tends to lead me to believe it is jack shaft or rear end..
Have you got mud or grit behind the drum on the axle flange?

Author:  Saam [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

nope no mud the vibe has been the same before and after rear wheel bearings and brakes being replaced and cleaned out. Got another jack shaft i can try ?

Author:  want33s [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

Saam wrote:
nope no mud the vibe has been the same before and after rear wheel bearings and brakes being replaced and cleaned out. Got another jack shaft i can try ?

I have a WT leafy jackshaft here you can try/buy if it fits/works..

Author:  Saam [ Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: play in gerbox output/jackshaft bearing ?

sounds good to me jas i'll let you know anyways

Author:  Saam [ Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Drivetrain vibe continues....

it's getting to the end now, i think i am down to one little niggling problem.

changed the jackshaft and tailshaft today, i am content the new tailshaft has made a difference and there is now no issue there, the jackshaft made no difference so mine must have been fine.

it is a vibration which comes in different times throughout the gears which seems to be worse under load and you can feel it through the transfer lever only not the gear lever.

is there anything inside the case (it has all new bearings in it) that could cause a vibration if not done properly ?

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