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| Author: | Damo [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Dog of a G16 |
My g16 isn't going that flash. To be honest it has been like this since i've had it and I thought it was fine but it wasn't until I drove another g16 that it appears something is wrong. I've just recently replaced the AFM, but that hasn't appeared to have made any difference. I have to connect the check engine light to see if it's throwing codes. What colour is that one? From memory it's pink. |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
define dog
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| Author: | Damo [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
royce wrote: define dog
Chews fuel, stumble off idle, poor throttle response. |
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| Author: | lump_a_charcoal [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
I blame the driver... |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
Damo wrote: royce wrote: define dog Chews fuel, stumble off idle, poor throttle response. does it come back to idle properly or does it hang for a bit at 1200 then drop back? |
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| Author: | Damo [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
royce wrote: Damo wrote: royce wrote: define dog Chews fuel, stumble off idle, poor throttle response. does it come back to idle properly or does it hang for a bit at 1200 then drop back? I am pretty sure it mostly idles OK, though I have noticed that it does start idling a bit higher than normal (after initial warmup). I don't think it does as you describe though. |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
mine still stammers a bit but I am too lazy to check the tps, otherwise vacuum leaks
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| Author: | Damo [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
royce wrote: mine still stammers a bit but I am too lazy to check the tps, otherwise vacuum leaks
Yeah Jr Zook mentioned TPS, and that has been moved at some stage. How do I get that back in the right spot? 0v at idle i'm guessing, any idea which pins from the TPS I need to meter? |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
its in the diagnostic part of the FSM if yours matched one of them, something along hte lines of a feeler gauge against the stop and stuff |
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| Author: | losfer [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
try another o2 sensor . |
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| Author: | oozuk [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
do you still have the obd2 connector in your loom ? if so plug in a scan tool into it and check the codes and tps thru that |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
oozuk wrote: do you still have the obd2 connector in your loom ? if so plug in a scan tool into it and check the codes and tps thru that
I saw one on sale new today for $145 trade buy only, had live data to, very tempted. |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
steknig wrote: oozuk wrote: do you still have the obd2 connector in your loom ? if so plug in a scan tool into it and check the codes and tps thru that I saw one on sale new today for $145 trade buy only, had live data to, very tempted. I've used one of them and they're not bad for what they are. Don't expect too much from them if you're used to the bigger scan tools though. Damo, if you're out my way drop in and use our scan tool. |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
g16 isnt obdII unfortunetly |
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| Author: | datso [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
coilpack or dizzie? |
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| Author: | Damo [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 2:46 pm ] |
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datso wrote: coilpack or dizzie?
Dizzy. It's from an X90 so it has the dizzy with the integrated coil, |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Wed Dec 09, 2009 3:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
losfer wrote: try another o2 sensor .
Closed loop system is usually activated at cruise not at idle and not accelerating. Also the O2 sensor response is quite slow and the engine should also run quite well without one. It will just be in open loop mod and not trim the fuel when cruising for optimal AFM Isn't there a TPS reset procedure ie reset computer, hold pedal to the floor for a few seconds and then take your foot of for a few seconds? Ah I do recall somewhere on suzuki info website the voltages were listed for idle and full throttle (I think). Dan |
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| Author: | Hybrid [ Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
Seen this thread Damo? Sounds like similar symptoms to yours. It was the fuel pump. http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic191633.php |
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| Author: | Damo [ Thu Dec 10, 2009 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
Hybrid wrote: Seen this thread Damo? Sounds like similar symptoms to yours. It was the fuel pump.
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic191633.php Worth a try. I don't think min is quite that bad but I will check it just the same. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
You still have the diag plug?? I could bring the tech 2 home & hook it out to looky. 
I think x90 was obd 2 ( been a while tho) |
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| Author: | Damo [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
steknig wrote: You still have the diag plug??
I could bring the tech 2 home & hook it out to looky. I think x90 was obd 2 ( been a while tho) I'm pretty sure it's got both plugs, i'll have to have another dig through the wiring and let you know. I need to get the overheating issue sorted first though 
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| Author: | mr.green [ Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
Damo wrote: [I need to get the overheating issue sorted first though
you didn't mention that before. sounds very much like you have a flogged out crank key. easiest way to tell is check if your ignition timing has moved ( with a light) and line up tdc on your harmonic balancer and then check at the flywheel . assuming you are using a 1.3 gearbox. if they are not both saying its tdc at the same time. its liquid metal time 
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| Author: | Damo [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
I think I will check the crank key, though I did pay particular attention to doing up the bolt properly. From memory I even put Loctite on it. I had a little look at a few things tonight and discovered the timing was out a bit i'll give it a run tomorrow and see if that makes any difference.
I probably owe Hybrid a beer 
Steknig, on the subject of the diag plug, I dug around the loom and found a 6 connector plug, but I am sure there is also a 4 connector plug somewhere. The 6 connector plug has the folling wires: violet/yellow, blue/yellow, violet, blue/red, black. Even if I get this overheating/performance issue sorted i'd still be keen to put a diag box on it. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dog of a G16 |
It's not obd2 then, I'll bring the Tech2 home over the week end  
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