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| Author: | tombutt [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | vitara diffs |
Ok so whats the easiest way to get my diff back into the car I havnt taken the cv's out should I? I cant get the drivers side to slide in properly is there any trick to it? thanks in advance guys |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
tombutt wrote: Ok so whats the easiest way to get my diff back into the car I havnt taken the cv's out should I? I cant get the drivers side to slide in properly is there any trick to it?
thanks in advance guys pay some one to do it Yes take cv's out, or you will be fighting with them the whole time, the driver's has a c/clip, so it may need a bit of a tap with a hammer. TAP! You not trying to put it through the diff, just into it, make sure the splines are lined up by turning the shaft, you should be able to feel the diff turn. Hope that help's!!! |
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| Author: | tombutt [ Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
ok thanks mate knew you would be able to help almost called into yours after work today to ask you. and paying someone is the easy not as much fun/swearing way |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
tombutt wrote: ok thanks mate knew you would be able to help almost called into yours after work today to ask you. and paying someone is the easy not as much fun/swearing way
& you don't get to hit your finger's with hammer's either |
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| Author: | tombutt [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
haha im not that retarded usally |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
tombutt wrote: haha im not that retarded usally
Tell me that when your finger's are bleeding!! Give me a Pm if you have drama, I can come & hit your finger's for ya |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
The RH cv can be a right bitch to get in!!! I usually unbolt the ball joint from the calmini control arm & unbolt the knuckle from the strut for ease of reisntallation. (you won't be able to unbolt the ball joint) |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
atari4x4 wrote: The RH cv can be a right bitch to get in!!! I usually unbolt the ball joint from the calmini control arm & unbolt the knuckle from the strut for ease of reisntallation.
(you won't be able to unbolt the ball joint) Your just showing off!! He has a point tho, the 2 bolt's on the strut will have to be removed so the hub move's far enough to install Cv. |
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| Author: | tombutt [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
ok anyone wanna buy a vitara missing one cv gunna kill something ie the car soon having some issues getting it back in |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
tombutt wrote: ok anyone wanna buy a vitara missing one cv gunna kill something ie the car soon having some issues getting it back in
If you have all the bit's I'll give you 1k |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
tombutt wrote: ok anyone wanna buy a vitara missing one cv gunna kill something ie the car soon having some issues getting it back in
how did you pull it out? pry bar, angle grinder & a hammer... it's a serious juggling act with the RH front, have you got access to a ball joint splitter? do you have the strut unbolted? roll the knuckle forward & outward from the chassis rail... you might need someone to stand on the wishbone to get some extra travel & maybe remove the swaybar if it's still there! if not add an extra dollar to stekkys highest bid & i'll take it! |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
If you are struggling stand the diff vertically and use some grease on the clip to keep it in position then push the CV down in to it. Then just install the diff with CV attached. I have swapped front diffs this way as it saved draining the oil. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
I just had a thought, & yes it hurt. Are you fitting the 5.12's? Have you swapped ring & pinion's over onto your old hemisphere? Thay have different spine's you know. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
cj_zuki wrote: If you are struggling stand the diff vertically and use some grease on the clip to keep it in position then push the CV down in to it. Then just install the diff with CV attached. I have swapped front diffs this way as it saved draining the oil.
sounds easy cj but, i can't picture what you are talking about... are you just compressing the RHS CV in the cups? noobCAD or photo's would rock... |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
steknig wrote: I just had a thought, & yes it hurt.
Are you fitting the 5.12's? Have you swapped ring & pinion's over onto your old hemisphere? Thay have different spine's you know. good point steknig... was it a centre from a carby or import EFI front cut? as those farkers are 22 spline!!!
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
He got a complete front off me, that I got of saam, & saam got it out of the doner swb vit for the rebuild. |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
atari4x4 wrote: cj_zuki wrote: If you are struggling stand the diff vertically and use some grease on the clip to keep it in position then push the CV down in to it. Then just install the diff with CV attached. I have swapped front diffs this way as it saved draining the oil. sounds easy cj but, i can't picture what you are talking about... are you just compressing the RHS CV in the cups? noobCAD or photo's would rock... Start with the diff out of the Vit. Stand it vertically on the passengers side flange. Take the drivers side CV/axle and smear grease around the clip on the spline to keep it central. If the clip moves across to one side it can make it difficult to push in. Insert the CV. Now take the whole assembly and fit it by sliding the outer part of the axle into the spindle then push the diff into position and bolt it up. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
hmmm, it could be a 22spliner... did they come out of this vitara? Saam wrote: ![]() if yes, i'm full of bad news! |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
atari4x4 wrote: steknig wrote: I just had a thought, & yes it hurt. Are you fitting the 5.12's? Have you swapped ring & pinion's over onto your old hemisphere? Thay have different spine's you know. good point steknig... was it a centre from a carby or import EFI front cut? as those farkers are 22 spline!!! ![]() Could be the problem. |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
Those carby vits are 22 spline. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
cj_zuki wrote: Start with the diff out of the Vit. Stand it vertically on the passengers side flange. Take the drivers side CV/axle and smear grease around the clip on the spline to keep it central. If the clip moves across to one side it can make it difficult to push in. Insert the CV. Now take the whole assembly and fit it by sliding the outer part of the axle into the spindle then push the diff into position and bolt it up.
thanks cj, that makes sense... but i think he has bigger problems! |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
1.6 vits from the update dash onwards (same dash as 2.0 litre V6) have 26 spline fronts. before that 22. |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
I just saw his rig. He's going to have to pull the centre and swap the sidegears for some 26 spline ones and also swap the passenger side inner axle shaft. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
now i know this sounds dodgy... but you could make up a hybrid RHS 22spline inner CV & run the V6 outer CV & shaft, it's been done before... |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
Wasn't he asking about diff shop's a couple of week's ago? I was under the impression he was just doing a R&P swap into a Gv housing!!!!!!!! tombutt? |
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| Author: | tombutt [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
that was the plan but need the car for over xmas and wasnt able to get the swap done plus the place i got the diff from after i asked for the bracket didnt send me a bracket |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
did you get the CV's with the alloy 5.12 diff? |
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| Author: | cj_zuki [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
atari4x4 wrote: now i know this sounds dodgy... but you could make up a hybrid RHS 22spline inner CV & run the V6 outer CV & shaft, it's been done before...
There are a couple of slight variations in the CV's and some can't be mixed. Check and see if they are the same colour first and you "might" have a chance but no guarantees. |
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| Author: | tombutt [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
if it cant be done and is too much screwing around then ill be driving a shit heap around for a while longer id say |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Dec 24, 2009 2:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: vitara diffs |
atari4x4 wrote: did you get the CV's with the alloy 5.12 diff?
I know where thay are. do you have the 5.12 in the rear yet? I have a empty ally housing here you can swap your old gear into if you want it, free of corpse. |
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