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Author:  nick.gooding [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:44 am ]
Post subject:  POWER

Ok as everyone knows the sierra isn't made for speed but i was just wondering if there are modifications you can do to the 1.3litre to get more power. things like iv heard on other cars like with a Vl commodore you can swap the head for a Rb 26 head and it bolts straight on.

even small things, so far i'v changed filters and new plugs and leads. just want some more power for around town while i save up for my 1.6 :D

cheers......

Author:  zookster666 [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:45 am ]
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Just save for the 1.6 will take longer if you spend money on the 1.3

Author:  Fatzook [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:47 am ]
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nick.gooding wrote:
Ok as everyone knows the sierra isn't made for speed but i was just wondering if there are modifications you can do to the 1.3litre to get more power. things like iv heard on other cars like with a Vl commodore you can swap the head for a Rb 26 head and it bolts straight on.

even small things, so far i'v changed filters and new plugs and leads. just want some more power for around town while i save up for my 1.6 :D

cheers......


I'd be carefull posting things like this without atleast doing a search first. Royces' BAN finger is really itchy these days :wink:

Cam, port & polish, high comp pistons, go elec water pump and fuel pump and thermo fan, extractors and exhaust upgrade and rejet or replace carby with bigger one.

Get started on it :D

Pete

Author:  steve [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:48 am ]
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you can get some chrome things from Autobarn, but apart from that i wouldn't waste money on it.

You will find it hard to find a difference between a 1.6 engine and 1.3 so i wouldn;t even waste money on small things for the 1.3.

Author:  nick.gooding [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:52 am ]
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Fatzook wrote:
nick.gooding wrote:
Ok as everyone knows the sierra isn't made for speed but i was just wondering if there are modifications you can do to the 1.3litre to get more power. things like iv heard on other cars like with a Vl commodore you can swap the head for a Rb 26 head and it bolts straight on.

even small things, so far i'v changed filters and new plugs and leads. just want some more power for around town while i save up for my 1.6 :D

cheers......


I'd be carefull posting things like this without atleast doing a search first. Royces' BAN finger is really itchy these days :wink:

Cam, port & polish, high comp pistons, go elec water pump and fuel pump and thermo fan, extractors and exhaust upgrade and rejet or replace carby with bigger one.

Get started on it :D

Pete


Thanks mate i had done a search on OL was thinking of extractors, exhaust my carby needs a rebuild anyway, and a thermo fan but didnt see those other ideas thanks mate. I'll have a look in to it on prices and if it would be worth it in the end or if i should just save for the 1.6 like you suggested thanks guys..

Author:  nick.gooding [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:53 am ]
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steve wrote:
you can get some chrome things from Autobarn, but apart from that i wouldn't waste money on it.

You will find it hard to find a difference between a 1.6 engine and 1.3 so i wouldn;t even waste money on small things for the 1.3.


i hate chrome :lol:

Author:  Scrawny [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:03 am ]
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They're not built for speed :roll:

Biggest change I've found for mine was bigger carby jet, made a pretty big difference

Author:  boost=money [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:10 am ]
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ca18det make mounts and then it will bolt in but say bye to your diffs, i have broken 6 rear diffs with 1.6 efi

Author:  Fatzook [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:14 am ]
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boost=money wrote:
ca18det make mounts and then it will bolt in but say bye to your diffs, i have broken 6 rear diffs with 1.6 efi


You reckon you may have over simplified that? :roll:

And What are you doing to those poor diffs :shocked: I run 1L diffs with my 16v and no breakages yet.... :?

Author:  v.w.dave [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:26 am ]
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You can fit a 1.6 16v block under your 1.3 head. It may be a bit more then you wanted to spend but it gets you one foot closer to what your wanting in the end. It will give you more power and split the total build cost between now and when you finish the EFI

Author:  Fatzook [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:30 am ]
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v.w.dave wrote:
You can fit a 1.6 16v block under your 1.3 head. It may be a bit more then you wanted to spend but it gets you one foot closer to what your wanting in the end. It will give you more power and split the total build cost between now and when you finish the EFI


Only problem with that is you have to find someone willing to split a perfectly good motor to sell just the block, OR buy the whole damn setup anyway.

My advise is to stick with the 1.3 and only do minor repairs where needed, and save the rest of your cookies for a complete 16v conversion.

If you have someone near by that has a 16v sierra, perhaps you could get them to take you for a spin.

Pete

Author:  v.w.dave [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:21 am ]
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Fatzook wrote:
v.w.dave wrote:
You can fit a 1.6 16v block under your 1.3 head. It may be a bit more then you wanted to spend but it gets you one foot closer to what your wanting in the end. It will give you more power and split the total build cost between now and when you finish the EFI


Only problem with that is you have to find someone willing to split a perfectly good motor to sell just the block, OR buy the whole damn setup anyway.

My advise is to stick with the 1.3 and only do minor repairs where needed, and save the rest of your cookies for a complete 16v conversion.

If you have someone near by that has a 16v sierra, perhaps you could get them to take you for a spin.

Pete


So your telling me that 1.6 16v engines dont have head problem????? These zooks are getting old and when they are insured and blow a head they are getting to the age they will wreck the car due to the price leaving a good block at the wreckers.
You would be suprised how many of the blocks are out there. People have been after the heads for a cheap fix to the cracked heads leaving a good block. I found 4 different wreckers in my area that all had more then one 1.6 16v block they were willing to part with.

Author:  Fatzook [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: POWER

v.w.dave wrote:
Fatzook wrote:
v.w.dave wrote:
You can fit a 1.6 16v block under your 1.3 head. It may be a bit more then you wanted to spend but it gets you one foot closer to what your wanting in the end. It will give you more power and split the total build cost between now and when you finish the EFI


Only problem with that is you have to find someone willing to split a perfectly good motor to sell just the block, OR buy the whole damn setup anyway.

My advise is to stick with the 1.3 and only do minor repairs where needed, and save the rest of your cookies for a complete 16v conversion.

If you have someone near by that has a 16v sierra, perhaps you could get them to take you for a spin.

Pete


So your telling me that 1.6 16v engines dont have head problem????? These zooks are getting old and when they are insured and blow a head they are getting to the age they will wreck the car due to the price leaving a good block at the wreckers.
You would be suprised how many of the blocks are out there. People have been after the heads for a cheap fix to the cracked heads leaving a good block. I found 4 different wreckers in my area that all had more then one 1.6 16v block they were willing to part with.


Meh

Its still a bandaid on the whole power issue.
I stand by my comments to just go the whole hog. Anything else is just a half measure.

Peter

Author:  Damo [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:44 am ]
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Fatzook wrote:
v.w.dave wrote:
Fatzook wrote:
v.w.dave wrote:
You can fit a 1.6 16v block under your 1.3 head. It may be a bit more then you wanted to spend but it gets you one foot closer to what your wanting in the end. It will give you more power and split the total build cost between now and when you finish the EFI


Only problem with that is you have to find someone willing to split a perfectly good motor to sell just the block, OR buy the whole damn setup anyway.

My advise is to stick with the 1.3 and only do minor repairs where needed, and save the rest of your cookies for a complete 16v conversion.

If you have someone near by that has a 16v sierra, perhaps you could get them to take you for a spin.

Pete


So your telling me that 1.6 16v engines dont have head problem????? These zooks are getting old and when they are insured and blow a head they are getting to the age they will wreck the car due to the price leaving a good block at the wreckers.
You would be suprised how many of the blocks are out there. People have been after the heads for a cheap fix to the cracked heads leaving a good block. I found 4 different wreckers in my area that all had more then one 1.6 16v block they were willing to part with.


Meh

Its still a bandaid on the whole power issue.
I stand by my comments to just go the whole hog. Anything else is just a half measure.

Peter


I'm with you Pete, keep the 1.3 until you can do a full engine swap.

Author:  v.w.dave [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 4:58 am ]
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I only did mine this way because my 1.3 bottom end was bad (crank bearings chewed out the block and rings no longer held compression) and I didnt have the money to do the hole shabang in one go.

Author:  Damo [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:05 am ]
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v.w.dave wrote:
I only did mine this way because my 1.3 bottom end was bad (crank bearings chewed out the block and rings no longer held compression) and I didnt have the money to do the hole shabang in one go.


Yeah that's fair enough, in that situation I would see why you'd go that way.

Author:  shep [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:25 am ]
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if you have bigger tyres you will need to do something with your gearing also
decent headers and exhaust do help.

Author:  Reubs [ Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:21 pm ]
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IMO, No.1 fix to Sierra power problems is a carby rebuild and tune. Until you have done that, you are probably wasting your money on everything else.

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