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Author:  shep [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:21 pm ]
Post subject:  LWB sierra + hilux towbar

i found a hilux in a big pile of shitboxes and i want to use the towbar off it.
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the problem is i need to either space out the chassis or cut down the towbar
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my welding skills are very poor :D and i don't have any supervision from
someone who is good at welding so i would rather not weld it. i was thinking
that i could bolt some thick walled RHS to the chassis and then bolt the
towbar to the RHS.
i would have to space it out 85mm on each side with some thick walled 75mm RHS
and some flat bar. the tow bar needs to handle around 60kg towball
weight and a 800kg trailer, it wont be driven on a road so the legalities dont matter.
will it work?

Author:  S13RR4 [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

shep, if your doing it, anything will work,

although like you said without balls supervision this could all go balls up

(excuse the pun)

Author:  want33s [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

Can you get hold of an oxy set and bend the bars in to meet the chassis?

Author:  steve [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:58 pm ]
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just weld it shep, you said it wont be driven on the road so doesn't matter? What could possibly go wrong?

also,

1. is that steel strapping for the exhaust mount?, did the plastic strapping break?

2. where do you buy curved bolts for shackles? Please post a photo of you complete shackle :lol:

Author:  v.w.dave [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:00 pm ]
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Mate you can get used tow bars for your rig for $50 there is one from ACT on here right now. I can ship thing very cheaply Let me know if this will make life easier for you. infact I have on here I will ship you that all you need it a tounge and the mounting bolts. It has a very slight bend in it but is fine to use.

Pm me if you want it. Shipping should only be like $30

Author:  shep [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:17 pm ]
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v.w.dave wrote:
Mate you can get used tow bars for your rig for $50 there is one from ACT on here right now. I can ship thing very cheaply Let me know if this will make life easier for you. infact I have on here I will ship you that all you need it a tounge and the mounting bolts. It has a very slight bend in it but is fine to use.

Pm me if you want it. Shipping should only be like $30


swb bars don't fit LWB sierras :wink: if they did i would be laughing as i own a few of them.

jas i reckon that might be the go. :wink:

and steve. get fucked. :lol: i smashed out the bit of the chassis that the shocks
bolt onto and it flapped around for a bit and took out the chassis mount for
the zorst which then poked a hole in my fuel tank :lol: so it is now held on with a
hose clamp :wink:
and the shackle, well that's another story however it isnt the shackle or bolt that is bent :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  eldo [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:46 pm ]
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just nip into the store and get some threaded rod and a few extra washers, shell be right mate!!!

Author:  shep [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:03 pm ]
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eldo wrote:
just nip into the store and get some threaded rod and a few extra washers, shell be right mate!!!


i do have a shitload of threaded rod and that would be fairly quick. :D
i just went and had a quick look in my shed and there is 4 oxy and 4 acetylene bottles
so there must be a set of gauges and hoses somewhere so when i go to
work tomorrow that might be a good project for the day. gee i love being a
public servant. :lol:

and if i kill the tow bar there is heaps more toyotas at the dump. :lol:

Author:  Scrawny [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:18 pm ]
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Yeah, as Jas said give the bar bending a go first. Love the sticker too :lol: Quite applicable for you :P

Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:19 pm ]
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Get Mad Kenny to help, surely he has some baling twine and cable ties you could use...

Author:  shep [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

lump_a_charcoal wrote:
Get Mad Kenny to help, surely he has some baling twine and cable ties you could use...


i wish he was here cos he is a boily. the tow bar that he broke was one i
made. :lol: that's why i want to be a little bit cautious this time.

Author:  shep [ Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:24 pm ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
Yeah, as Jas said give the bar bending a go first. Love the sticker too :lol: Quite applicable for you :P


i chose that bar because of the sticker, had to winch it over the pile off cars
behind it which was a bit of fun anyway

Author:  ZookiMonsta [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

shep wrote:
the tow bar needs to handle around 60kg towball
weight and a 800kg trailer
, it wont be driven on a road so the legalities dont matter.
will it work?


Towing a 800KG trailer with a zook... :shocked:
Am i missing something here? *scratches head*

Author:  shep [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

ZookiMonsta wrote:
shep wrote:
the tow bar needs to handle around 60kg towball
weight and a 800kg trailer
, it wont be driven on a road so the legalities dont matter.
will it work?


Towing a 800KG trailer with a zook... :shocked:
Am i missing something here? *scratches head*


actually it is probably more like 1000kg :wink:
i only have 1 car and i want to be able to stick my boat in the water.
here is another photo of my boat cos it is fucken great :lol:
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don't worry mate there are no road rules where i live. :lol:

Author:  steak_knife [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:18 am ]
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ZookiMonsta wrote:
shep wrote:
the tow bar needs to handle around 60kg towball
weight and a 800kg trailer
, it wont be driven on a road so the legalities dont matter.
will it work?


Towing a 800KG trailer with a zook... :shocked:
Am i missing something here? *scratches head*


What sort of weight do you think snatching pull's on a zook??

Author:  shep [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

it will be right, it will have a hilux towbar and they are as tuff as :lol:
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Author:  ZookiMonsta [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:25 am ]
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haha. as long as its not THAT Hiluxs towbar. :lol:
Trade ya my hilux towbar for ya boat, so if your LWB
has two hilux tow bars it'd be tougher than a hilux.
:twisted: :wink: 8)

Author:  steak_knife [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:25 am ]
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:lol: :lol:


I Love that pic, you should send it to Toyota!!! :P

Author:  shep [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:32 am ]
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i have another barge to unload tomorrow so i might see if i can fit more in. :lol:

Author:  want33s [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:51 am ]
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The poor ute would probably carry the load better if you put the heavy stuff against the headboard or at least over the axle instead of behind it.

Author:  shep [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:58 am ]
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it goes on the ute in the order that it comes off the boat. :wink:

Author:  Fatzook [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:14 am ]
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IMO I would be cutting it down and having it welded. Spacers will not relay the forces in the necessary manor.

Pete

Author:  shep [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

there is no where to have it welded. i am gunna try and heat/bend the arm things.
should work maybe.

Author:  Fatzook [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:30 am ]
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Desperate times hey? :D

Author:  shep [ Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:41 am ]
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yep i wanna try my boat out and the work ute would probly drown if i used it
to beach launch the tinny.

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

I has a solution(serious)

Cut the box section either side of the tongue bracing, Cut out the box section till you get the plates inline with the chassis. Bolt together with plates.

NoOb CaD aLL ThE wAy!

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Hopefully you can understand it, and you have long enough bolts and enough plate. Preferably 10mm thick x 50mm wide at least.

Bodgee, but it will hold anything!

Also, Maybe a plate behind(so you dont see it) to brace up the pulling and pushing movements.

Add some toyota spray rust and viola!

Author:  shep [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: LWB sierra + hilux towbar

well i decided that BlueSuzy was onto something however there isn't a bolt
shop here and i am an impatient type of fella so i decided that i would just
weld it and worry about the consequences of failure later. :lol:

it is a bit low and not exactly square, and i didn't have any bolts for the passenger side. but i reckon it will do for now. i will find some bolts for the
passenger side but. :D
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and on the plus side i reckon that i could fit a 6500lb winch in behind the
fuel tank. the towball is about 450mm off the ground so i hope i only get
around 150mm sag with the trailer on.

Author:  Joe [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:39 pm ]
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Is it just me or does it look a bit lopsided in that first pic :?

Author:  shep [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:48 pm ]
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joseph wrote:
Is it just me or does it look a bit lopsided in that first pic :?


it only has bolts on the drivers side :wink: :lol:
if ya look at the second photo you will see the G clamp that is holding the
other side sort off on.

Author:  bogfrog [ Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:57 pm ]
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shep wrote:
joseph wrote:
Is it just me or does it look a bit lopsided in that first pic :?


it only has bolts on the drivers side :wink: :lol:
if ya look at the second photo you will see the G clamp that is holding the
other side sort off on.


I think the G clamp is rated at atleast 2500kg so should be plenty strong? :lol:

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