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foonji
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1286
Vehicle: Suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:15 am |
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As the paint on my sierra is badly cracking and worn all over the vehicle with surface rust starting in those areas I was thinking of repainting it myself at home with acrylic. A cheap way out of paying someone to do it. and im not after something 100% perfect, just to get me out of trouble for the time being.
Never done it before, but Im sure I'm more than capable after a test run on the rear door
Should I go ahead and do it?
I was thinking I would do the Bonnet, Doors, and Roll bar all in stages and then do the body last. So it wouldn't be out of commission for too long at any one stage if I need it urgently (as its my daily driver)
It looks like the previous owners have just sprayed over the original paint and that is part of the reason for the cracking and flaking. So would be a bit of work to sand it in some areas.
Has any one got any tips for this? or any useful links?
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
Vehicle: jimny
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go buy a cheap orbital sander from bunnings and start sanding all the big flat areas with that, will not take too long
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86slowsierra

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Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 724 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: nt sierra
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 Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:21 am |
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being a dd its going to be hard to do.
if you can stand to paint cracks id just patch up the rust and be happy.
it is a sierra and it is a 4wd so paint condition should not really get under your skin too much
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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4 can's of pressure pack will do it!!
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Rub the whole thing back with an orbital sander, thinners on a rag to get all the oily crap off your panels..In a nice windless area that is free from dust etc(garage with the floor hosed down is good)Get yourself a good primer/putty, mix at a ratio of about 1:4 I think roughly(could be wrong) One nice thick coat should do it, or you could go 2 not so thick ones if you wish. Apply a guide coat of flat black. This should only take a day. Wet rub back with I think about 600-800 grit(it could be different, again its been a while) You want to rub the black off without taking the primer putty off. Be gentle, take your time, you are after a nice smooth finish. Mix your colour as previous and give it 2 or 3 coats, a rub in between with some really fine wet and dry is good, not sure on grit type. Again, another day if your taking your time. Clear coat...mix same ratio again and maybe add a tiny bit of colour. Wet rub back with extremely fine wet and dry...Buff and enjoy..
It has been a really long time since I have painted a car, there is most definately a few things I might have over looked, ratios, sand paper grades etc, someone will definately correct me hopefully. I'm sure there will be several suggestions to do or not do do stuff, so just figure it out for yourself I guess
I would suggest getting it to all primer in a day, then all colour a different day, this way you have a better chance of a more uniform neater finish.
Hope that helps ya a bit
Cheers
Rusho
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Last edited by Rusho on Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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steknig wrote: 4 can's of pressure pack will do it!!
Or you could just do that 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Rusho81 wrote: Rub the whole thing back with an orbital sander, thinners on a rag to get all the oily crap off your panels..In a nice windless area that is free from dust etc(garage with the floor hosed down is good)Get yourself a good primer/putty, mix at a ratio of about 1:4 I think roughly(could be wrong) One nice thick coat should do it, or you could go 2 not so thick ones if you wish. Apply a guide coat of flat black. This should only take a day. Wet rub back with I think about 600-800 grit(it could be different, again its been a while) You want to rub the black off without taking the primer putty off. Be gentle, take your time, you are after a nice smooth finish. Mix your colour as previous and give it 2 or 3 coats, a rub in between with some really fine wet and dry is good, not sure on grit type. Again, another day if your taking your time. Clear coat...mix same ratio again and maybe add a tiny bit of colour. Wet rub back with extremely fine wet and dry...Buff and enjoy..
It has been a really long time since I have painted a car, there is most definately a few things I might have over looked, ratios, sand paper grades etc, someone will definately correct me hopefully.
I would suggest getting it to all primer in a day, then all colour a different day, this way you have a better chance of a more uniform neater finish.
Hope that helps ya a bit
Cheers
Rusho
Make sure the paint's dry when you do that step!!
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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That's good too...I knew I would forget some shit
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
Vehicle: jimny
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 Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:29 am |
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no need to rub in between coats, unless you get a run or blemish
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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So what is the quickest and cheapest way of painting a zook then?
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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II, SJ40, SJ40T, RS415
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On a zook i'd be inclined to do it wet on wet, As in sand it all back with 180/240 on a orby, then 2 THIN coats of primer surfacer, let that dry for 30 minutes, colour then clear, all done in a day and looking a lot better!
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greenzook89

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Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
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On my last one i sanded it back with 320 all over, then hit it with 3 coats of "export" spray can blue! Cheap and easy!
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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PJ.zook wrote: So what is the quickest and cheapest way of painting a zook then?
Quick rub then pressure pack cans 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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PJ.zook wrote: So what is the quickest and cheapest way of painting a zook then?
4 can's of pressure pack 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Rusho81 wrote: PJ.zook wrote: So what is the quickest and cheapest way of painting a zook then? Quick rub then pressure pack cans 
Waist of time!! 
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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steknig wrote: Rusho81 wrote: PJ.zook wrote: So what is the quickest and cheapest way of painting a zook then? Quick rub then pressure pack cans  Waist of time!! 
how else can you get the mud off? 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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PJ.zook wrote: So what is the quickest and cheapest way of painting a zook then?
ameron styralux 220
http://ppgamercoatau.ppgpmc.com/docs/pr ... %20220.pdf
brush the stuff on if ya want but it does spray well, ya don't even need to thin it much to spray it.
if ya use a stupid cheap spraygun ya can just toss it when you are finished.
should be around $30 or so depending on colour.
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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I painted mine with a brush and White Knight Rustpaint. It has gone a tiny bit chalky though, maybe not chalky but certainly not shiny. Was hoping for a better alternative.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 12:53 pm |
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PJ.zook wrote: I painted mine with a brush and White Knight Rustpaint. It has gone a tiny bit chalky though, maybe not chalky but certainly not shiny. Was hoping for a better alternative.
if ya use hammertone paint you will only be able to repaint with hammertone.
whiteknight is a retail paint and ameron is a industrial brand. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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weaves wrote: steknig wrote: Rusho81 wrote: PJ.zook wrote: So what is the quickest and cheapest way of painting a zook then? Quick rub then pressure pack cans  Waist of time!!  how else can you get the mud off? 
Corrugated road's work well 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Go look at Steves rallyzook, he has some good secrets for fast painting 
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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shep wrote: PJ.zook wrote: So what is the quickest and cheapest way of painting a zook then? ameron styralux 220 http://ppgamercoatau.ppgpmc.com/docs/pr ... %20220.pdfbrush the stuff on if ya want but it does spray well, ya don't even need to thin it much to spray it. if ya use a stupid cheap spraygun ya can just toss it when you are finished. should be around $30 or so depending on colour.
What about prep though Shep?
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foonji
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1286
Vehicle: Suzuki
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wow... 2 pages of replies
I do want to stay semi-pro and it look half decent, so won't be going down the pressure pack path.
Orbital sander sounds much better than the ol hand sander! lol
As I said it is a daily driver, but doing it over christmas I don't have as much work going on and can afford to have it apart to an extent. Can always borrow a car from the family if I really need to.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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TASSIETOYUKI

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Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 490 Location: Rosevears Tas
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Damo wrote: shep wrote: Damo wrote: What about prep though Shep?
if it is bad ya use a scourer instead of a sponge. http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=3222When you wash your zook do you use a broom like me? What about primer etc?
From the posts on here of recent times i thought that you would use a "Go Duster" or something like that.. 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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TASSIETOYUKI wrote: Damo wrote: shep wrote: Damo wrote: What about prep though Shep?
if it is bad ya use a scourer instead of a sponge. http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=3222When you wash your zook do you use a broom like me? What about primer etc? From the posts on here of recent times i thought that you would use a "Go Duster" or something like that.. 
haha. poor web wheeling damo.
i wash mine by covering it in CT18 and then pressure washing it.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Fark man, you bastards are harsh!
I'll pay the go duster one though, that's gold 
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foonji
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1286
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started pulling the car apart today, and hit the bonnet with a orbital sander...
damn door hinge screws are stuck in good.... got one out then on the next one I screwed up the extractor..  will get another tomorrow..
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