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Author:  sr20zook [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:26 am ]
Post subject:  removing leafs from pack

Ok this got me thinking about it from reading another thread,
now when doing this are we talking about the first flat one or the second one? having searched around on the net it seems peeps are doing this (removing second leaf) to lower there utes but the fourby crowd removing the little flat bugger..am I gettin this right? any one got pics on doing this? looking at doing this to gain more flex cos lets face it flexin pulls chicks :cheers:

Author:  v.w.dave [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

Yes you are removing the first curved leaf. it is normaly the second leaf.

Author:  89_tintop [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

hey mate the one you want to remove is the load leaf.

it is the bottom one on the pack.

Author:  sr20zook [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:43 am ]
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wtf 8O

Author:  Junior_91 [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

Remove the load leaf first which is the big fat one at the bottom then go from there.

Author:  Choppy [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

ok mate i recently went through this dilema. on the rears i was told to remove both bottom leafs ie little fat one (load bearing, very bottom leaf) and first curved one (second leaf) for best results as mine was soo god damn stiff. however as i still use my sierra to cart ppl and campin gear sometimes i just removed the second leaf from the bottom as by keeping the little fat load bearing one there (very bottom leaf) i iwll have less tendency to cause sage in my springs. however for the best flex results remove very bottom load bearing leaf (little fat one) and perhaps the second. if it does happen to sag in time just chuk the bugger back in. i may in the future be removing my load bearing leaf and doing this once sagged. i had 5 leafs in my rear pack.

hope that helps. to do it get sum jacks as the plate that goes under the leafs and the u bolts go into needs to be jacked up flat into position nice and flush to reset into the bolt which holds it in and maintain no overhang from the leafs over the holes for the u bolt. DO ONE AT A TIME so ur diff doesnt move.

thats probs really confusing but i hope it helps
choppy

Author:  want33s [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

I run stock ARB OME +40mm rears and haven't touched them, even left the bolts in the retainers...
I get heaps of flex... :D

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Author:  sr20zook [ Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

you must pull heaps of chiks with flex like that!

Author:  slowsierra [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

hey guys i am about to start to removing the load leaf out of 2 inck king springs but i have just one question. how tight should the bushes be in the eye of the spring and when you tighten the shackles should that be really tight i have fatzook's shackles and bruce's bushes
thanks greg

Author:  alien [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

when im choosing the leaf to remove i undo the whole pack and lay the leaves out on the ground... then starting jumping on them! its not neccessarily the one with the most arch thats the stiffest.

As for tightening the shackles, you want it to be hand tight - you should feel and see it starting to compress the bushing, thats where you stop. If you over tighten it you'll just chew out the bush.

Author:  slowsierra [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:56 pm ]
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so it does not have to be really tight just enough to slightly compress the bush

Author:  JrZook [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:56 pm ]
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alien wrote:
As for tightening the shackles, you want it to be hand tight - you should feel and see it starting to compress the bushing, thats where you stop. If you over tighten it you'll just chew out the bush.


Handtight 8O . The shackle pins should have a step up to limit the amount they compress the bushings. Do they up reasonably tight otherwise any play here will wear out the shackle.

Dan

Author:  slowsierra [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

when i put the shackle over the the bushes to bolt it up it goes on with a slight gap(1mm or so) and if i tighten it so it is snug on the bush it bends the shackle

Author:  JrZook [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

slowsierra wrote:
when i put the shackle over the the bushes to bolt it up it goes on with a slight gap(1mm or so) and if i tighten it so it is snug on the bush it bends the shackle



Pic?

Author:  slowsierra [ Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:06 pm ]
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pm me your email addy i can email them
thanks greg

Author:  2stroker [ Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: removing leafs from pack

Ok, as he said he is using some of the alloy aftermarket Fatzook shackles, they are not like factory shackles, no step up in the bolt. From previous posts Fatzook says that they are designed to be used with nylock nuts and you just nip the nut up against the side and leave it, as you have found if you tighten it up past that or the alloy bends in and binds on the bush and you will have worse suspension than you started with. I put an engne in a white ute which had those shackles, the ride was stupid, it felt like it had no suspension, I had a look and saw that the dude had tightened them to a point that the sides had bent in and the suspension had bound, I took them off straightened them and refitted them, he thought he had a new car.

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:25 am ]
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2stroker wrote:
Ok, as he said he is using some of the alloy aftermarket Fatzook shackles, they are not like factory shackles, no step up in the bolt. From previous posts Fatzook says that they are designed to be used with nylock nuts and you just nip the nut up against the side and leave it, as you have found if you tighten it up past that or the alloy bends in and binds on the bush and you will have worse suspension than you started with. I put an engne in a white ute which had those shackles, the ride was stupid, it felt like it had no suspension, I had a look and saw that the dude had tightened them to a point that the sides had bent in and the suspension had bound, I took them off straightened them and refitted them, he thought he had a new car.


:? 8O Alloy thay are not... 8O

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