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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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i am about to put recovery hooks on the jimny and plan on drilling holes to mount them. is this a big no-no?
from what i can find... come people say "NEVER DRILL HOLES IN A CHASSIS!"
and others say it is fine....
i cant see any problem with it... how can they be different from any other factory drilled holes in any other car? not like the front 10cm of the chassis is under a whole lot of stress....
what do you guys think????
thanx
ben
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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I would think it's ok...put some crush tube in also
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:29 am |
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Rusho81 wrote: I would think it's ok...put some crush tube in also
Like the copper pipe that was used in Buttercup's eng mount's??
Thay crush. 
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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 Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:29 am |
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i drilled holes in it to mount my arb bull bar too
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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 Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:31 am |
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copper pipe!
thats a little rough....
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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steknig wrote: Rusho81 wrote: I would think it's ok...put some crush tube in also Like the copper pipe that was used in Buttercup's eng mount's?? Thay crush. 
Maybe something a bit more robust than copper 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:32 am |
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its not the holes you need to worry about but getting the whole lot strong enough, those hooks are a fair shit idea on anything other than a 40 series that has holes in the chassis for it already
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:34 am |
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Just stay clear of mount's, crush tube's & or plate's help to.
I drill hole's in rail's all the time, but I'm a Suzuki special tool. 
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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Your special alright!!!!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:39 am |
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i'd be making something like this

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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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 Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:41 am |
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royce wrote: its not the holes you need to worry about but getting the whole lot strong enough, those hooks are a fair shit idea on anything other than a 40 series that has holes in the chassis for it already
why? yes there are holes factory drilled in a 40 series... but how are they any different from holes drilled at any other time?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Benz2369 wrote: royce wrote: its not the holes you need to worry about but getting the whole lot strong enough, those hooks are a fair shit idea on anything other than a 40 series that has holes in the chassis for it already why? yes there are holes factory drilled in a 40 series... but how are they any different from holes drilled at any other time?
Reinforcement .
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ck13488

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Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 452 Location: newy
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steknig wrote: Benz2369 wrote: royce wrote: its not the holes you need to worry about but getting the whole lot strong enough, those hooks are a fair shit idea on anything other than a 40 series that has holes in the chassis for it already why? yes there are holes factory drilled in a 40 series... but how are they any different from holes drilled at any other time? Reinforcement .
hence crush tubes
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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steknig wrote: Benz2369 wrote: royce wrote: its not the holes you need to worry about but getting the whole lot strong enough, those hooks are a fair shit idea on anything other than a 40 series that has holes in the chassis for it already why? yes there are holes factory drilled in a 40 series... but how are they any different from holes drilled at any other time? Reinforcement .
what he said, youll just tear the whole thing out of the chassis, not to mention them all being chinese shit that pulls straight anyway
you really need to make something up using stuff that spreads the load into a big area that can handle it and not fail or damage the car
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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atari4x4 wrote: i'd be making something like this 
not having a dig, just curious - but doesnt that create a fulcrum / lever when recovering? ie: the load on the recovery point is diagonal to the mounting point - hence weakening it?
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atari4x4

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i don't know i stole it off the interweb... it's an "outback ideas" recovery hook for a pootrol, i'd say it would be alot better that the normal recovery hooks you get from 4wd shops.
i'd be building something similar to that but so it extends straight out from the chassis out of 12mm plate & bolting it in with crush tubes & a substantial backing plate.
here are the rest of his photos from his photobucket account showing the damage the original hook did to the pootrol chassis which is twice as thick as the zooks.
http://s136.photobucket.com/albums/q200 ... d%20Bolts/

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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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pretty much exactly what i was saying abotu the leverage effect it'd have =) lol
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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that damage was done with the original tow hooks & by the look of it there is no backing plates or crush tubes.
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Maml
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 49 Location: South Africa
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What about a 'JATE Ring' type setup?
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 10:35 am |
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I was going to put some hooks on the Jim but after looking at the factory recovery points i decided I couldn't do any better. Late jimnys have crap tie downs but the early ones are pretty good.
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