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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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 Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:49 am |
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changed the rear brake shoes in my little jimny this-morning
news to me they aren't self adjusting...
also were a prick to do.... bring on a rear disk conversion!
checked my wheel bearing for any movement while i was at it.
passenger side has no movement if you push on the top and bottom of wheel...
but if you pull both top and bottom of the tyre at same time it moves out about 2mm. with a clunk/tap as the axle/bearings/what ever moves.
my holiday starts next sat and will be wanting to drive 3-3.5 thousand k's traveling down south and back...
any thoughts
01 jimny with just over 100000k's on it btw
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Joe
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:50 am |
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Wheel bearings
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royce
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:50 am |
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they have been self adjusting since 1985!!!!!
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:52 am |
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really? not sure how they self adjust then.....
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royce
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:56 am |
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see the little half moon looking serrated thingo that you probably thought was part of the handbrake? thats the adjuster
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:04 am |
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where?
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royce
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:17 am |
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ooo they changed them 
lever 6 pushes down on teh serrated bit on rod 3 with the help of spring 7
when the shoe can move a long way (from adjustment being low) lever 6 lifts up till there is enough spring force to turn the adjuster
they wont adust from nothing themselves and if the thread in rod 3 seizes up they will stop adjusting but they do work, sometimes
I agree, Suzuki are stupid fitting that setup go disc
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Benz
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1006 Location: Cervantes WA
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:34 am |
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ah!
mine was seized... =[
will i need to do the bearings b4 i go?????
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royce
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:38 am |
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unscrewing them all the way and putting never seize on them and screwing em back up helps there
I wouldnt do the bearing but i'm lazy
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Joe
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:39 am |
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Benz2369 wrote: ah!
mine was seized... =[
will i need to do the bearings b4 i go?????
You probally should, you would want one to give way while you were sitting on 100km
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Benz
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:47 am |
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haha yeah i put anti-seize on them =]
any idea what bearing will cost me?
will be taking it to the mechanic as i will have to get it done this week.
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Joe
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:51 am |
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Benz
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:59 am |
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okay... so $500-600?
hmm how long would it take... hope some one like me dosn't do it...
would be $2000 in labor! 
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Joe
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Benz2369 wrote: okay... so $500-600? hmm how long would it take... hope some one like me dosn't do it... would be $2000 in labor! Yeah bout $600 is what i was paying to get my sierra ones done
Should only take three to four hours to do both sides
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Benz
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:07 am |
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yeah think i will fork out the $600...
saves making a otherwise great holiday (i have been waiting for all year!) POO =[
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steak_knife
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:08 am |
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joseph wrote: Benz2369 wrote: okay... so $500-600? hmm how long would it take... hope some one like me dosn't do it... would be $2000 in labor! Yeah bout $600 is what i was paying to get my sierra ones done Should only take three to four hours to do both sides I'm moving down there!!!
1/2 hr per side..... 
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Joe
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:11 am |
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steknig wrote: joseph wrote: Benz2369 wrote: okay... so $500-600? hmm how long would it take... hope some one like me dosn't do it... would be $2000 in labor! Yeah bout $600 is what i was paying to get my sierra ones done Should only take three to four hours to do both sides I'm moving down there!!! 1/2 hr per side..... Really  Suzistore has allways quoted me 3 to 4 hours 
I know how to do them myself now anyways but it takes me a bit longer then 4 hours
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steak_knife
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:29 am |
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joseph wrote: Really Suzistore has allways quoted me 3 to 4 hours I know how to do them myself now anyways but it takes me a bit longer then 4 hours Just for bearing's??
If I was doing shoe's & cylinder's to I'd want 2hr's..
But i don't press of the old bearing's, I smash the outer race & cut the inner off, much quicker..
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Joe
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:31 am |
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steknig wrote: joseph wrote: Really Suzistore has allways quoted me 3 to 4 hours I know how to do them myself now anyways but it takes me a bit longer then 4 hours
If I was doing shoe's & cylinder's to I'd want 2hr's.. But i don't press of the old bearing's, I smash the outer race & cut the inner off, much quicker.. Yep
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hutch
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:33 pm |
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Whilst driving on the road can you hear a low pitch rumblin sound that goes away when u stab the brakes lightly momentarily? If so the bearings would need a change I drove on my rooted bearings for ages. 3+ months.
2mm play is about 1mm play too much but from what u have described I would say it would be fine.
Just keep an ear out for that low rumbling noise as thats a good indication that they are stuffed. The worst thing that can happen is the bearing doesnt get enough lube and the outside cage welds itself to the housing. In a more powerful vehicle you will tend to outdrie it when that occurs and then the inner cage siezes to the axle shaft, then bingo lock up and the wheel may fall off if the axles weakens and snaps.
The real issue is the 100km an hour driving that is going to build the heat up in the components.
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hutch
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steknig wrote: joseph wrote: Really Suzistore has allways quoted me 3 to 4 hours I know how to do them myself now anyways but it takes me a bit longer then 4 hours But i don't press of the old bearing's, I smash the outer race & cut the inner off, much quicker.. ??? I press mine off and i reckon its much quicker.
By the time I find BFH, drop it on my toe several times, get he angle grinder, finds its got the grinder wheel in it, hunt round for the cut off disk, drop it under the bench, swear a bit, find another one, look for the key to unlock the grinder disk, drop that, swear some more, plug it in find it wont reach the bench, look for a extension cord, then remember it is upstairs connected to the TV, walk up stairs, get mesmerized by the pretty moving colours on the telly for an hour or so, decide to unhook it and get the extension cord then forget what I was doing with it then start on the mowing, get part way through the mowing then remember what I needed the extension cord for, go back to the bearing job, plug the cord it pick up the grinder, start to cut, get some steel in my eye, swear that I swore last time I said I would never using moving tools without glasses, make my way to the doc, who injects the eye with battery acid, then go back home with a patch on, only to find tools strew verywhere and the mowing half down, give up and go upstairs to watch telly, Swear, the damn thing wont turn on. 
So yeah I bought a press...damn good I tells ya, damn good!
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Benz
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:29 am |
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oh almost forgot.
it is also oozing a bit of grease.
hutch i know what you mean.
i have a lack of tools. also have a lack of a shed... doing stuff in the driveway i always loose shit...
things that should take 30 mins some times take 2 hours.
sometimes longer if the sun starts to go down.
head torches are good =]
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