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sbbunno
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 420 Location: Perth/bunbury
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i already have 40mm suspension kit
quick couple of questions
1) will getting extended shackles effect the roll a heack alot?
2) will i need spacer's for driveline?
3) brake line extensions?
4) steering issues?
any help would be appreciated i did do a search but didn't find what i was looking for.
cheers scott
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Jazzor

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Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 4:42 pm Posts: 502 Location: Kingston, Tas
Vehicle: 85 Suzuki Sierra
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My humble opinion  :
It probably won't improve on road performance  .
When you flex (and the wheel goes down) and/or put longer shackles in the dif actually moves back towards the transfer case so if your tail shaft doesn't extend. So you should be fine on that count.
The difs don't go much further away unless the wheel is dropping out a long way. How tight are the brake lines on flex stock?, No idea what they look like anymore :/
Steering - Yea.... as above it just makes the zook more interesting to drive. 
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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 Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:28 pm |
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sbbunno wrote: i already have 40mm suspension kit quick couple of questions
1) will getting extended shackles effect the roll a heack alot? 2) will i need spacer's for driveline? 3) brake line extensions? 4) steering issues?
any help would be appreciated i did do a search but didn't find what i was looking for.
cheers scott
1) Probably not, though the shackles will twist around in the bushes more.
2) Very highly doubt it
3) Doubt it, but check to see if your suspension drops far enough to stretch the brake line anyway.
4) Yes, steering will feel lighter, it will self centre less, probably increasing your chances of getting death wobbles, the springs may move side to side a bit more when steering. Lots of fully sick stuff
If you do put them in, put in castor wedges in the front axle also. This will solve some of the steering issues. But why? There is no point IMO running them with most off the shelf suspension kits, it will only make your car worse. I'd only run them to stop long springs inverting.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:54 pm |
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It will probably make the car worse. On and offroad with normal length springs.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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and illlegal....
...nearly all mod'z will go un-noticed unless complimented my another 3....
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nato78

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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1504 Location: Auckland, NZ
Vehicle: Yamaha scooter, 50cc
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i already had 2in springs and when i put in 2in shackles in, i ran out of down travel in my shocks, so i'm not going to have any extra travel or flex till i change my shocks. most shocks that come in 2in lift kits are standard height shocks
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sbbunno
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 420 Location: Perth/bunbury
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 Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:02 pm |
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sorry hadn been home a while
iv got longer shocks on the front so i dont get up travel instead of changing shocks was thinking of the shackles.
i have got heavy duty springs that prevent to much roll with softer shocks but if its going to make things to dangerouse i may not
thanks for the advice guys 
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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nato78 wrote: most shocks that come in 2in lift kits are standard height shocks
no they are not. if you put 50mm springs in a sierra and try to bolt up the original shocks you will find they are way short.
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sbbunno
Joined: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 420 Location: Perth/bunbury
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 Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:55 am |
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joeblow wrote: nato78 wrote: most shocks that come in 2in lift kits are standard height shocks no they are not. if you put 50mm springs in a sierra and try to bolt up the original shocks you will find they are way short.
thats true my lifted shocks from the kit definatley longer than stock
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nato78

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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1504 Location: Auckland, NZ
Vehicle: Yamaha scooter, 50cc
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fair enough, just going on whats in mine and what ive been told by the local "experts"
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: I drive your mum
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nato78 wrote: fair enough, just going on whats in mine and what ive been told by the local "experts"
Sounds like a good time to find some new "experts". Rear shocks will be at full extension with a two inch lift, or may not even fit.
Oops, just saw Joes post
Layto....
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nato78

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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1504 Location: Auckland, NZ
Vehicle: Yamaha scooter, 50cc
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does that apply to all vehicles, or just zooks with their short length leaf packs, coz i still have the standard shocks in my navara with a 2in lift and have had no dramas with them. just waiting for them to shit themselves before i fork out for new ones
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: I drive your mum
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It will vary between vehicles. Some standard shocks may still have suitable lengths. But more often than not you should change the shocks to get the best result from the new springs. Try flexing the nav with and without shocks and see if they are causing any restriction in travel. Remember the shocks primary job is dampening the suspensions motion. If you change the spring rate, then the dampening rate of the standard shocks may not be a very good match
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nato78

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Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1504 Location: Auckland, NZ
Vehicle: Yamaha scooter, 50cc
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 Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:29 pm |
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cheers mate, like i said, i'll just wait until they're buggered then i'll get some new ones that are better suited to the rest of the set up
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