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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:52 am |
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ok well deciding for my new years trip if i want to change to something a bit less agresive, softer sidewall..
i have 31" tsl's on my sierra atm, has any one actualy used them on dunes/beach?
i have no shortage of power i am just wondering about them digging holes etc?
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 5:58 am |
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I ran Extreme Trekkers at road pressure on sand a couple of times and they were OK.... Lower pressures would have been better but it didn't cause any dramas I couldn't drive out of.
You'll be right. 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 6:47 am |
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jonno_racing wrote: ok well deciding for my new years trip if i want to change to something a bit less agresive, softer sidewall..
i have 31" tsl's on my sierra atm, has any one actualy used them on dunes/beach?
i have no shortage of power i am just wondering about them digging holes etc?
poof
more revs and dont stop 
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 7:40 am |
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ajsr wrote: poof more revs and dont stop 
X2 That's what I really meant..!!!!
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:37 am |
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my tsl's didnt go good in creek sand, i just sunk eventually. idk if that counts. just keep ya revs up you'll be ok 
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superduki
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 466 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:14 am |
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Jonno's car lives in the red, so rev's won't be an issue!
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: I drive your mum
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 Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:28 am |
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I use my TSL/SX on the beach a heap ( i lived that close to the beach that i was on sand, i could drive from my house to the beach front without touching tar). They were not as good as my MTR's or road terrain style tyres, but performed fine when air'd down to round 5psi.
Layto....
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:49 am |
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how well did yours air down?? mine with next to 0 psi dont bag at all!!
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:33 pm |
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how are you checking the psi jonnno? with a guage
they sound like near 0 psi long before you get to 0.
when I first bought my swampers I pulled the valve entirely out and they sat like they had 15psi in them for nearly 1/2 an hour before they bagged flat.
now they just go down.
you need to condition them a bit first (run them low for a while to soften the side walls.)
but the thing you need to remember is they are bias ply with a very stong side wall and they will never look like a radial thats aired down.
Ill put a pic up later for you
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:43 pm |
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ah ok. i bough them second hand so figured they would be fine. we are of to a mates farm on the weekend so migh8 drop them to 5psi and cruse about for a few hours. would that be low enough?
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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 Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:28 am |
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jonno_racing wrote: ah ok. i bough them second hand so figured they would be fine. we are of to a mates farm on the weekend so migh8 drop them to 5psi and cruse about for a few hours. would that be low enough?
5 on a regular tyre would be a rather huge bulge
Once the sidewall frees up a little it will show it
Don't expect it to be bulging like an A/T though.. Bias tyres just won't get that far without alot of weight/force on them
You see at Tufftruck, they run beadlocked 40s and whatnot on 5psi.. And they look like they're at 40PSI!
Until they put a wheel on a rock, and the whole thing compresses
Ofcourse this doesn't really help you on sand.. Sand has a habit of moving easier than your bias tyre flexes 
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superduki
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 466 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:18 am |
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Actually Phil if you'd looked on my fb pics you would see my old sierra at peron with the swampers on. I aired them to ten from memory, and they got around ok, but nothing like a road tyre!
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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superduki wrote: Actually Phil if you'd looked on my fb pics you would see my old sierra at peron with the swampers on. I aired them to ten from memory, and they got around ok, but nothing like a road tyre!
My Kumho's don't bulge til they're at like 10psi on Sand.. Damn muddies
I can't imagine how bad the Swampers must be
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: I drive your mum
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 Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:25 am |
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My swampers are at 0psi at the moment, i will take a photo later on and post it up.Mine do bag, but they are pretty old and have had a heap of use.
Layto....
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 5:30 am |
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superduki wrote: Actually Phil if you'd looked on my fb pics you would see my old sierra at peron with the swampers on. I aired them to ten from memory, and they got around ok, but nothing like a road tyre!
hmmm kinda sus... one pic and your STUCK!
haha thanks guys i will run them! zook looks 2 sex to take them off anyways 
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superduki
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 466 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:39 am |
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Oh how I wish I was seventeen again! That zook used to take me so many places! Used to clear $250 a week, spent $80 on my toolbox loan, $50 board, $50 repayments for the zook & $50 fuel, used to fill my tank (long ranger) and that was me spent for a week! Save for two weeks for that annual easter trip to peron dunes, enough to cover caravan park costs and home brand hamburgers and a box of piss, life was good!
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