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Paul
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:35 am Posts: 9 Location: Penrith nsw
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hey guys
last month i bought a decently modded sierra, g16 baleno/vitara motor, the tranfer gears are 6.5:1 i think? 1st in low4 is pretty much useless unless your trying to climb a brick wall  (i actually did get the front wheels up on small brick wall haha), most of the suspension is calmini and it looks to be around 10 inches higher overall (including 3 inch body lift and 31's) than a standard sierra  feels pretty good and stable due to the massive width caused by the massive offset wheels  its foot print is nearly as wide as a patrol  and shit it flex's well!
the problem: I keep bending the standard steering arm from steering box to tie bar like a banana nearly every time i take it off road (well over big rocks) and it is beggining to do my head in!
is there anything i can do to stop this from happening?
it doesnt seem to be binding on anything while flexing up
its also running the calmini shackle reversal kit up front if that makes a difference?
i was looking at a high steer set up, but the way the mount to the hubs has got me worried
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LittleJeep
Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:03 am Posts: 310 Location: ipswich
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i think the "massive offset of the wheels" you are talking about has contributed significalntly in the bending of your steering... what model sierra is it? what size tyres and wheels do you have? (and offset) if it's a Narrow Track you could put Wide Track diffs in it and less offset wheels and it will still have the width you are after and bend less stuff!
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Paul
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:35 am Posts: 9 Location: Penrith nsw
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its a 91 wt, the tires are 31x10.5x15. the exact offset i am unsure of, they are roh steelies that have had the barrel of the wheel removed, reversed and re welded
will post pics once i resize them
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Paul
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:35 am Posts: 9 Location: Penrith nsw
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just measured the offset of the wheels to be -80 the wheels are 15x8.5
im thinking of sleeving the drag link, im confident i can do it safely, 6 years in the trade as a beater has me pretty confident i know what im doing when it comes to welding 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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pic of the steering would help
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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definitely a pic of the steering required... sounds like a death trap =)
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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alien wrote: definitely a pic of the steering required... sounds like a death trap =)
sounds no worse than shandy's set up.... 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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haha at least his was just jumping teeth, not like the arm was about to snap!
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Paul
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:35 am Posts: 9 Location: Penrith nsw
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id love to post some pics but its just not happening for me for some reason... i resized the pics and now is saying no post mode selected 
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3459 Location: licking some windows
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sounds like it has had the diffs put under the springs and now has a z bar like this one in it.
taken from http://128.83.80.200/taco/scarysteering.html
Best thing is to take said z bar and throw it as hard as you can at the next commonwhore that drives past your house.
Then research drop pitman arms, and hi steer options.
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Paul
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:35 am Posts: 9 Location: Penrith nsw
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 Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:23 am |
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nope its sprung under... my first post says im bending the standard drag link... i have not mentioned a z bar any where
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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so if its spua where besides the body lift is the rest of your 10 inch lift coming from.
high steer wont work with a spua setup that I can see.
A drop pitman arm may work.
and are the drag link and tie rod touching at flex ? the diff will move backwards under compression with a shackle reversal.
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Paul
Joined: Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:35 am Posts: 9 Location: Penrith nsw
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well by looking at puresuzuki.com the shackle reversal is two inches by itself, the rear had drop shackles but i pissed them off because they were useless in the set up the car has and chucked a set of TSOR shackles in, the springs are calmini too i just havent bothered trying to read the part numbers yet to reference them to the ones on the webstore...
there are no binding marks to indicate that the drag link and tie rod have touched at flex, and the shackle reversal is pitching the diff rearward during up travel which is stopping me from going up to 33's  so i think i might unbolt the reversal kit and go back to shackle up front once i sort this out and stop needing to spend money on the swift
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