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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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 I have recently put new bearings in my transfercase, drove it last week to make sure all was good which it was, after putting a new water pump and belts on yesterday, drove it again this afternoon and it was all good until it creeped out of 2hi and grinded, so stopped put it back it did it again, the only way to keep it in gear was to hold the stick, I am lost as to what it could be. Thanks in advance :stekky:
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salih

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Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1475 Location: melbourne
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yeah i have the same problem with mine i put it into low
and it jump back out
but im planing on changing my transfercase so wasent to fust
but wouled be good to get a answear
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:48 am |
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The shifter bush is normally the culprit for transfer cases jumping out of gear I believe...
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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 Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 6:49 am |
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Haveyou got a body lift? Cos Sometimes the shifter does go 100% into place and jumps out.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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detent balls??? did ya put em back in??
busted mount causing it to pop out??
would of also suggested bush like the others but thought you would of picked up on it being that shagged during the rebuild.
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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Okay guys should have given more info, also put in 3 new mounts, new shifter bush kit and it has a 20mm bodylift installed, with the detent balls, I put them back in according to the trailcreeper gear install instructions, 2 small ones for the shifter arms and the bigger one for the switch
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 7:21 am |
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Remove the rubber boots and go for a drive and see if it still jumps out. The rubber could be putting to much strain on stick, or it could be hitting the body.
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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The boot around the shifter? I stuck my head under the car when I got to my missus' the stick looks to have a good 30 or so mm from the left and front of the body in 2hi, the rubber boot is new aswell what would be a way tocure this if it's the fault?
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FullyZooked

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:01 am Posts: 1009 Location: Bendigo
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Could be, new rubber is quite firm and not all floppy like a used one. Worth taking it off and going for a spin.
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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Okay just took the rubber boot off and tried to drive it, it wouldn't go into high at all lowrange is fine, but when trying high in either 2 or 4wd the stick feels like it has gone in but as the clutch is released it makes the same grinding sound as if it was moving trying to put it back in gear, it's driving me abit  Anyone have any suggestions as to where the problem could lie? 
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Hmm... I'm starting to lean towards some sort of mistake reassembling the case if you have just rebuilt it 
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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That would have been my first thought to only that I drove it for 20 or so kays last week and it was flawless, but I'm leanin towards that now so it will be coming back out on Saturday and will check it out
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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I think I have found my problem i undid the the rubber mounts from the chassis and it goes into highrange fine, unsure whether the long arm is twisted alittle or the mounts where to tight, is there any set torque for the nuts on the chassis side of the rubber mounts??
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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Ok new question, whilst I was pulling the case out so I can split it to see if there is any obvious reason for my issue I had all the shafts disconnected and it was going in to high fine, when I grab the jackshaft flange it would grind while spinning the tailshaft flanges, now I have dropped the oil it won't do it at all, I used vmx 80 would this be causing the problem?
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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turbo_deo wrote: Ok new question, whilst I was pulling the case out so I can split it to see if there is any obvious reason for my issue I had all the shafts disconnected and it was going in to high fine, when I grab the jackshaft flange it would grind while spinning the tailshaft flanges, now I have dropped the oil it won't do it at all, I used vmx 80 would this be causing the problem?
Pretty sure I've got VMX80 in my case, and it doesn't cause any dramas, so I doubt it...
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MART
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 282 Location: Sydney
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Q1 . Did you fit the gears ?
Q2 . Do you think you put the thrust washers in correctly , the one's on the centre idler shaft
Q3 . Do you have any play between the input shaft and rear output shaft
Q4 . When moving input flange back and forth , does it sound like something is clunking back and forth.
Cheers Paul.
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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MART wrote: Q1 . Did you fit the gears ?nope just new bearings
Q2 . Do you think you put the thrust washers in correctly , the one's on the centre idler shaftyep lined the little notches up to sit in the case Q3 . Do you have any play between the input shaft and rear output shaft there is slight movement on the input shaft before the output spins Q4 . When moving input flange back and forth , does it sound like something is clunking back and forth.will check in the morning and post results
Cheers Paul.
Edit: input flange has about 2mm movemnet back and forth but no clunking noises
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turbo_deo
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:14 am Posts: 542 Location: Newcastle
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So have definitely found my problem, seems when putting new bearings on the output shaft I have forgotten the spacer between the bearing and high speed gear  , so I now need help with where to source one from and if they are all the same? Your help would be much appreciated to help fix my f*ck up 
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