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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:56 pm |
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i have been looking into snorkels and i see most of them are for the drivers side which is alright for me because i'm still running a carby motor but i'm thinking down the track i might go efi so what i'm wondering is there a way of running a drivers side snorkel on an efi suzuki motor or is is possible to use a passangers side snorkle on a carbie motor?
Cheers
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Mike wrote: i have been looking into snorkels and i see most of them are for the drivers side which is alright for me because i'm still running a carby motor but i'm thinking down the track i might go efi so what i'm wondering is there a way of running a drivers side snorkel on an efi suzuki motor or is is possible to use a passangers side snorkle on a carbie motor?
Cheers
Once you go EFI you could make a pipe that goes over the motor and into your EFI manifold. It wouldn't look all that neat but no reason you couldn't do it.
There are no off-the-shelf passenger side snorks available AFAIK.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:04 pm |
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i'm pretty sure i've found a passenger side one
can you put a carbie airbox on the passenger side?
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Mike wrote: i'm pretty sure i've found a passenger side one Pics?
can you put a carbie airbox on the passenger side?
You can, but then you have the problem again of getting the piping over to the other side of the engine (if you are still carbed). I mounted the stock airbox on the passenger side of the engine bay when I had the Megasquirt running on my G13. I drilled the spot weld out on the mount that the single bolt goes through, and tek screwed it to the same position on the other side of the engine bay. For the other two bolts I just used M6 metal thread (booker rod it's sometimes called) bolted to the inner gaurd, it was pretty easy.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:12 pm |
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would the piping be too long going from the carbie to the passanger side?
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:36 pm |
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as long as the pipe work has no holes you won't have a problem how ever long it is.
there is no fuel in the air till the carby.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:40 pm |
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what i was thinking there might be a drop in air pressure or something 
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:45 pm |
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no air speed goes up as it goes thru the carby.
the only time you would worry about how long the pipe is if you had a suck thru carby turbo or supercharger set up.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:48 pm |
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ok so as long as its all airtight and as straight as possible it would be alright?
would it be bad having the air box near the extractors?
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:58 pm |
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if its air tight and doesn't restrict the air flow you should be fine.
as long as its not to close, i'd put some exhaust wrap or a heat sheald up if its pretty close. if you wouldn't leave your hand there its to close.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:19 am |
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would where the jack mount is be far enough away?
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:28 am |
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yes, there are wires running under that i'm pretty sure and they don't melt.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:41 am |
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yeah the bonnet release cable goes along there
am i better off using the factory airbox or using something else?
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MART
Joined: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 282 Location: Sydney
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You should be right Mike , just leave your airbox were it is and run a pipe accross the engine bay and when you do change the motor you'll be set , Cheers Paul.

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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:00 am |
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i don't have an airbox at the moment because i just got one of those chrome filters because of my weber
is there some other sort of air box i can use?
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:10 am |
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Mike wrote: i don't have an airbox at the moment because i just got one of those chrome filters because of my weber is there some other sort of air box i can use?
Get a stock one, that way it will bolt straight in 
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:19 am |
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is there anything else that can be used other than an airbox like some sort of inline filter or something?
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:34 am |
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stick a pod or uni filter on the top of the snorkel then run that to the carby
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:46 am |
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i'm not a fan of pod filters on top of snorkles what about putting the pod filter inline at the bottom of the snorkle?
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:28 am |
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you can do that but you still need to make a box. just use a std one with a k&n filter in it
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 1:47 pm |
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Brett wrote: you can do that but you still need to make a box. just use a std one with a k&n filter in it
But what's the advantage of that? You might as well just use the stock airbox. Check what Mart did with his.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:06 am |
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what would be more restrictive one of those chrome filters or a factory airbox?
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:14 am |
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its only a 1.3, its not going to use all the air that can go thru a filter unless its really blocked.
best thing to do is get a stock filter box and mount it where you want, run some pipe to hook it up then later down the track put a different filter in if you want. my last car just had a stock filter, box and had enough air for a turbo'd 1.3
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
Vehicle: Zookless
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The airbox won't restrict anything, it's the type of filter you have inside it.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:38 am |
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CairnsZook wrote: The airbox won't restrict anything, it's the type of filter you have inside it.
i didn't think of it that way i forgot you could get different filter elements for the standard airbox
so in that case whats the best sort of filter element that you can get for the standard airbox?
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:41 am |
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Mike wrote: CairnsZook wrote: The airbox won't restrict anything, it's the type of filter you have inside it. i didn't think of it that way i forgot you could get different filter elements for the standard airbox so in that case whats the best sort of filter element that you can get for the standard airbox?
You can get finer filters etc.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 2:44 am |
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does air flow better through a finer filter or does it just filter more crap from the air?
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
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The air flows through it better.
It will let you engine "breathe easier".
When it gets dirty you can wash it and re-oil it.
You can get one for the stock air box.
They don't cost much.
They are available from pretty much any car parts store.
 just buy one.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:59 am |
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CairnsZook wrote:  just buy one.
now all i need to do is get a standard airbox to put it in 
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