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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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OK seeing so many of you suck at electricity so much  ive decided to do something about it.
Whilst doing something about it I made some clicky starter fix relays, all you need to do is screw the relay to the firewall (will reach to behind the battery), unplug the original starter wire, plug it into the loom, plug a new wire onto teh starter and bolt the power wire under the main power stud and you are away
All connections soldered and crimped, split loom tubing and heatshrink, this could well be the nicest thing in your sierra engine bay.
Will also fit Vitaras and pretty well any car in the world if you feel the need to have one.
$30 posted in Australia, all proceeds go to Auszookers
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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I've read about these clicky starter fixes. But what is the "clicky starter"? Is it a problem that happens to most zooks? Or is it the same on all zooks from factory?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Nice. Do they work on J20's ?
And why use split corro? For that short length You could use the un-split flexi conduit. Just pre-drill your exit for the earth. 
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
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SierraDan wrote: I've read about these clicky starter fixes. But what is the "clicky starter"? Is it a problem that happens to most zooks? Or is it the same on all zooks from factory?
I had it, then I checked the connection on the starter and battery and the problem was fixed!
These look like a bloody good idea though!
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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All my wiring is in split conduit then taped up the whole length.
Oh so it's just one of those things that happen not a design flaw.
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Rusho

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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Fatzook wrote: Just pre-drill your exit for the earth. 
Sounds like too much work
Good job Royce.....again, to late for me to buy one 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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I think mine has been needing one of these.
Is this the symptom of a clicky starter that needs a fix?
I turn the key, and click.
Sometimes it will turn over if I hold the key, other times I have to back off and do it again, sometimes a few times.
My auto elecy explained that the solonoid will stick especially if it's very dusty or if mud has gotten in.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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buzbox wrote: I think mine has been needing one of these.
Is this the symptom of a clicky starter that needs a fix? I turn the key, and click. Sometimes it will turn over if I hold the key, other times I have to back off and do it again, sometimes a few times.
My auto elecy explained that the solonoid will stick especially if it's very dusty or if mud has gotten in.
Get a fat chunk of cable, one end to the battery positive, the other end to the start solenoid terminal, if it cranks easy you could do with one (I think all vits are relayed though factory)
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Ahhh! I'm with it now. My old one did that..
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Rossco
Joined: Fri May 28, 2010 10:28 am Posts: 529 Location: Townsville, QLD
Vehicle: 91 WT 1.6EFI
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If you own a sierra just buy one of these now and save your self the trouble later... its going to happen to you eventually.
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96coily
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:37 am Posts: 1420 Location: Perth Hills
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How much spare time have you got to be sitting at home soldering all this together
I think Ted Kaczynski started like this 
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SuziBlu
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Royce, wouldn't dirty great big leads, unlike the anorexic standard ones do the same.
I had a slow as starter, rrrer, rrrrer, yuk, put the multimeter on, lots of power drop tween battery and starter, so used 300amp welding leads as to starter, both + and -, now, its like a friggin die grinder.
I love big heavy duty leads, the ones on sierras are extremely cheap and nasty.
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96coily
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:37 am Posts: 1420 Location: Perth Hills
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Just running a straight starter switch like a Ferrari
except not quite as fast
it's old school but maximum power to the starter 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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SuziBlu wrote: Royce, wouldn't dirty great big leads, unlike the anorexic standard ones do the same.
I had a slow as starter, rrrer, rrrrer, yuk, put the multimeter on, lots of power drop tween battery and starter, so used 300amp welding leads as to starter, both + and -, now, its like a friggin die grinder.
I love big heavy duty leads, the ones on sierras are extremely cheap and nasty.
different part, no good having 1000amps available to teh starter if the key is flogged and it cant pull the solenoid in properly
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96coily
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:37 am Posts: 1420 Location: Perth Hills
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This ^^^ is why mine works
like a veyron brrmmmmmmmmmm brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm brm cough cough splutter brm
Also looks cool when you push the button and the car starts....
or when people turn the ignition all the way and nothing goes...
until you push the starter button vroom vroom vrrroooooom
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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96coily wrote: This ^^^ is why mine works like a veyron brrmmmmmmmmmm brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm brm cough cough splutter brm Also looks cool when you push the button and the car starts.... or when people turn the ignition all the way and nothing goes... until you push the starter button vroom vroom vrrroooooom
i can so see you sitting in your zuk in the carport making those noises and turning the wheel and playing with all the levers and buttons =P haha
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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^^^x2^^^
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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royce wrote: Get a fat chunk of cable, one end to the battery positive, the other end to the start solenoid terminal, if it cranks easy you could do with one (I think all vits are relayed though factory)
My 89 Vit developed the clicky starter... i replaced the starter motor thinkin it was that... but still did it... took it to Suzistore, they knew what it was straight away... there is a section of plugin cables, about 40cm long, that go from the firewall to the steering column, had a dodgy wire in it, they replaced it with a 2nd hand one... problem fixed... 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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royce wrote: SuziBlu wrote: Royce, wouldn't dirty great big leads, unlike the anorexic standard ones do the same.
I had a slow as starter, rrrer, rrrrer, yuk, put the multimeter on, lots of power drop tween battery and starter, so used 300amp welding leads as to starter, both + and -, now, its like a friggin die grinder.
I love big heavy duty leads, the ones on sierras are extremely cheap and nasty. different part, no good having 1000amps available to teh starter if the key is flogged and it cant pull the solenoid in properly
Forgive my ignorance here, but if its the key, can't you just get a new one cut.
I had a key that would fall out of te barrel on bummpy roads, and yet the engine would run fine.
Went to a locksmith, not a key cutter, but a full on locksmith, he got the details of my car, had to show proof of ownership, went on the computer, looked up the barrel id, cut a new key, alls well.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Stop being difficult and buy one
its all to do with voltage drop, ive already posted a long winded explanation of why sierra electrics suck and how they can be improved, this is one of them improvements
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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lol sorry boss, on shore, bored, mkay.
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bede
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hay royce how many rolls of cloth tap for one i could make my own but know you love the stuff lol
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royce

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how many have you got 
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96coily
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:37 am Posts: 1420 Location: Perth Hills
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Spooky similarity some would say
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JrZook
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royce

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steak_knife

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royce wrote:

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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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Royce, you should do a headlight upgrade loom 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Lockie666 wrote: Royce, you should do a headlight upgrade loom 
You should read the whole forum 
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