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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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i've got an ammeter i want to install in my sierra but the instructions are dodgy and say there are a few different ways it can be installed
so does anyone know how to install one in a sierra?
Cheers
_________________ [quote="Fluffy"] yeah right mate like Im gunna mov
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Jack front right hand tyre up
place ammeter under tyre
lower jack
you're welcome 
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Why the right front Royce? Will it work under the other ones?
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Damo

az supporter
Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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ScrawnC wrote: Why the right front Royce? Will it work under the other ones?
right front, because that's where the most weight is, because of the driver. Which means you have to sit in the zook and have someone else jack it up, but the affect is the same
Get yourself a voltmeter Mike.
_________________ SJ50.4.LYF
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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Damo wrote: right front, because that's where the most weight is, because of the driver.
are you having a go about my weight Damo wrote: Get yourself a voltmeter Mike
well i've got this gauge already i may awell use it 
_________________ [quote="Fluffy"] yeah right mate like Im gunna mov
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:03 pm |
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OK serious answer now
see the thinner wire coming off the positive batter terminal into the loom?
pull that off and hook 1 side of it to one terminal and the other terminal to the battery, make sutre you use really really fat wire
now look how far that wire has to travel to get to the gauge and back and imagine the voltage drop it will induce both from ant to the battery, combine that with the voltage drop standard from the massive run the standard loom does and youll be loving your new dim lights and half flat batteries
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TZAR

az supporter
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3459 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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 Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:49 pm |
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I am also in the IHAWAP club ( I hate ammeter with a passion)
They are nothing but trouble. Basically all your charge from your alternator to the battery goes through this gauge. And what does it tell you? nothing really except your battery is charging.
So imagine your $45 set of three gauges which probably cost $10 to produce meaning your $3.33 gauge now supports if your car will charge or not. if this $3.33 piece of equipment fails then you are stuck on battery power to get home.
All because you have it.
Sometimes it pays not to do things. I have penis and a blender but I don't put my penis in the blender cause I can......
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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As if you could reach the blades anyway...
Anyway, yeah get a volt meter instead, much more useful, and easier to hook up.
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:38 pm |
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i didn't realise they were that bad i might have to see if i can get a voltmeter to match my other gauges
_________________ [quote="Fluffy"] yeah right mate like Im gunna mov
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:42 am |
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just as an example my mini had an ammeter and I pulled it out and fitted a volt meter, next time I drove it the generator died and I knew cause the voltage read lower, also gives you a better idea of when you are about to push than an ammeter
they are handy for checking out things like whether you have enough juice to run lights and stuff though
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:51 am |
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would 12 gauge wire be thick enough to use to hook it up?
_________________ [quote="Fluffy"] yeah right mate like Im gunna mov
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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FUCK NO!!!!!! all the power from your car is going through it, 8 gauge at the min
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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haha ok then i didn't think the wire coming from the alternator was that thick
_________________ [quote="Fluffy"] yeah right mate like Im gunna mov
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royce

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its not but its only 50cm from alt to battery, tis a long way to the dash and back
the cable will cost more than a volt meter 
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:16 am |
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but a volt meter won't tell me if the accessories in my car are drawing more than my alternator is charging
_________________ [quote="Fluffy"] yeah right mate like Im gunna mov
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:25 am |
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yes it will cause the voltage will sit at battery voltage not 14.4 when its running
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TZAR

az supporter
Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3459 Location: licking some windows
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 Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 2:01 pm |
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you could make up a test ammeter
just undo the wire from the alternator to the battery and put it on one terminal of the gauge. Then put a little wire from the other terminal to the battery.
turn on all your accesoriereseresessssss (sp) and check you gauage
Then wwork out what is drawing hard turn them on one by one and have a look and work it out. Then sell it on ebay after you are finished
Good volt gauges are only $20 -30 hell you could even just by a multimeter and mount that in the car
_________________ Camels have nice toes
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 4:46 pm |
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i went and had a look for a volt meter and the only one anyone had in stock was this weird blue faced one i can't seem to find anything to match the gauges i have and i don't really want to have to replace all my other gauges
_________________ [quote="Fluffy"] yeah right mate like Im gunna mov
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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Mike wrote: i went and had a look for a volt meter and the only one anyone had in stock was this weird blue faced one i can't seem to find anything to match the gauges i have and i don't really want to have to replace all my other gauges
its a sierra, half of the car will come from some thing else when your done with it, think of it as a "feature gauge" 
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