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luke1122
Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 8:13 am Posts: 142 Location: gold coast
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just wondering what size tube people have used for there cages?
pics and links to see peoples results would be great thanks alot
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Did you even bother to search? Hit the 'search' button, enter 'roll cage' into the search field then narrow it down by searching only 'Suzuki Talk'. Have a read through all those threads then come back and ask more if you need to
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steak_knife

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For what????
Different comp's ask different thing's....
Speed????
Slow??????
Ice-Cream???
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
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steak_knife wrote: For what????
Different comp's ask different thing's....
Speed????
Slow??????
Ice-Cream???
I like chocolate cake !!!!
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Mud cake ftw.
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TZAR

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Okay mud cake with ice cream!!!!!!!!!!!
WINNER
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remydog05
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1260 Location: Vic
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luke1122 wrote: just wondering what size tube people have used for there cages? pics and links to see peoples results would be great thanks alot
Google it mate, also search for it
http://www.ccda4wd.com.au/
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Fmoss3
Joined: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 535 Location: brisbane, northside
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ICE CREAM 
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luke1122
Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 8:13 am Posts: 142 Location: gold coast
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had a look and couldnt fine any sizes im thinking 40mm tube with 4mm wall should do it i recon
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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1.75" CDS, wall is about .100" or 2.54mm is what I've used in the past.
32NB is fine, but it's pipe not tube. Fine for a recreational cage but might not be permitted for competition, which is why steak_knife was asking what you wanted the cage for.
I have no idea what 40mm tube with a 4mm wall is - it's not a common size.
4mm is massive overkill for a sierra anyway. A well designed cage should never need tube that heavy.
Bear in mind though that the tube you use needs to suit the die you are using to bend it, so I'd start at the dies you have access to and work back from there.
Steve.
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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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Im building mine soon....already got the 4 point gunna build off that.....BUT i have searched high and low and asked a few people....
THe tube that runs down the fron go's between the dash and door...but i need a pick of it finished in the foot well....wouldnt it get in the way of the accelerator?
Cheers in advance
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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suzukikid wrote: Im building mine soon....already got the 4 point gunna build off that.....BUT i have searched high and low and asked a few people....
THe tube that runs down the fron go's between the dash and door...but i need a pick of it finished in the foot well....wouldnt it get in the way of the accelerator?
Cheers in advance
This is the best pic I've got of my old one, we ended up cutting the dash because of the size of the pipe, the cage sits about 10mm off the side which leaves enough room to fit some roll tube foam down there. There was plenty of room around the accelerator for me and I never tripped over the upright getting in or out, I did crack my head on the bar joining the a pillar to the b pillar, only the once though wasnt stupid enough to do it again.
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royce

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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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Red89 wrote: suzukikid wrote: Im building mine soon....already got the 4 point gunna build off that.....BUT i have searched high and low and asked a few people....
THe tube that runs down the fron go's between the dash and door...but i need a pick of it finished in the foot well....wouldnt it get in the way of the accelerator?
Cheers in advance This is the best pic I've got of my old one, we ended up cutting the dash because of the size of the pipe, the cage sits about 10mm off the side which leaves enough room to fit some roll tube foam down there. There was plenty of room around the accelerator for me and I never tripped over the upright getting in or out, I did crack my head on the bar joining the a pillar to the b pillar, only the once though wasnt stupid enough to do it again.
Cheers bloke!
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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suzukikid, you'll notice something about Red89's car in that shot - it has full harnesses.
Whilst the security of a full cage is awesome, there's a reason it's almost impossible to make one legal - they restrict interior room, and that's the irony of a cage - you are likely to hit your head on it in a roll unless you are wearing properly tightened harnesses, so, in fact, a helmet might also be required to retain the "safety" of not having a cage at all.
I don't know what type of driving you are planning on doing, but I would be considering a tightly integrated exo rather than an internal cage.
Part of the problem with an internal cage is that in a slow flop/roll you'll still wreck the car just as badly as if you had no cage at all. You might feel safer assuming you were harnessed and didn't hit the cage on the way over, but you might still have a wreck to tow home.
If course, if you are planning comps, then you'll have to comply with whatever is set out in the rules.
Personally, I wouldn't run an internal cage in a Sierra for recreational Victorian driving. I would consider a hybrid exo/internal cage using your existing 4 point rear 1/2.
I've lost count of how many flops I've seen over the years, and I've never seen a cage make any difference, recreationally. Of course I've seen plenty of rolls in comps where the safety equipment is vital.
Steve.
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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Hey Steve Just questioning the Legalities of an Exo Cage. it seems to be a relatively close guarded secret as to whether one is legal or not.
Could you shed some Light?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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Legal. (In Victoria) so long as nothing extends more than 80mm away from the car, which is easy.
Steve.
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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Fair enough... i wonder what its like on the greener side of the border...
<_<" Probably illegal like all fun things in NSW
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luke1122
Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 8:13 am Posts: 142 Location: gold coast
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ok im wonting to use it for w/e abit of fun but as i do more mods id like to go in some comps so may as well do it the first time
thanks guyes
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MADMANx511

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Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:02 am Posts: 415 Location: Paddington, Brisbane, Qld
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luke1122 wrote: had a look and couldnt fine any sizes im thinking 40mm tube with 4mm wall should do it i recon
http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/c792a ... icles2.pdf
Since you're in QLD, and I'm guessing you still want it to be road legal (I'm assuming) hit up that link. It's helped me out before.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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Luke, I suspect you will find that what's required for a comp will be illegal on the road.
Steve.
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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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i have pmed ya gwagon....wont hijack old mates thread!
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luke1122
Joined: Mon May 02, 2011 8:13 am Posts: 142 Location: gold coast
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mine isnt road leagal anymore anyway and im getting my trailer tomorrow i just wont safe
thanks alot
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
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My mates cage in his Sierra was good
It ran over the targa bar which gave heaps more Head room. It had little wings that came out just over the doors so when u lent on say a tree it would take the weight
It must have been strong as it had been on it's lid at least 3 times rec driving as well as the night drive at tuff truck
But like steve said he ran harnesses when of road
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055ETH
Joined: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:05 pm Posts: 383 Location: Brisbane
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here is my cage.. i cbf mesuring it so 
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