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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:36 am |
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after some used 3'' lift springs cheap would be good just want to try some out and decide if i like 3'' before i buy a kit
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:41 pm |
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Vehicle would help, but I'm guessing it's a Jimmy by your name
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3459 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:47 pm |
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What motor and how much extra does it weigh over standard and do you have a bull bar, winch etc etc etc.
Cause if you have to much weight in the front the 3 inch lift may only go up to 1 inch.
Lots more info and we all sure can help you.
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:17 pm |
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its a stock jimny i have turbo diesel hilux motor and box for it but ill worry about that later just need springs for the stock car at the moment
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:29 pm |
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Just buy new Jimny bits 75mm coils
They are cheap, I run them in my Jimny.
Btw don't think Jimny coils will like a fat arse diesel engine 
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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i dont think they will either im either using the dielsel engine and box with remote patrol transfer or a ve alloytec 190kw v6 with a 6 speed gearbox but this wont be untill the 1.3 is completley rooted anyway how much were your coils
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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2.7turbojimny wrote: i dont think they will either im either using the dielsel engine and box with remote patrol transfer or a ve alloytec 190kw v6 with a 6 speed gearbox but this wont be untill the 1.3 is completley rooted anyway how much were your coils
why?
by doing that you'll ruin everything thing that is good about a suzuki... small, light weight, free reving blah blah blah, want a diesel buy a hilux.
please think about the dolphins before polluting a suzuki with a crap engine choice 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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atari4x4 wrote: 2.7turbojimny wrote: i dont think they will either im either using the dielsel engine and box with remote patrol transfer or a ve alloytec 190kw v6 with a 6 speed gearbox but this wont be untill the 1.3 is completley rooted anyway how much were your coils why? by doing that you'll ruin everything thing that is good about a suzuki... small, light weight, free reving blah blah blah, want a diesel buy a hilux. please think about the dolphins before polluting a suzuki with a crap engine choice 
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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What's wrong with the alloytec? There all alloy the block would weigh shit all plus there quad cam and 190kw stock and have a 6 speed box and if I wanted a hilux I would go buy one the jimny is a project
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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2.7turbojimny wrote: What's wrong with the alloytec? There all alloy the block would weigh shit all plus there quad cam and 190kw stock and have a 6 speed box and if I wanted a hilux I would go buy one the jimny is a project
If by "shit all" you mean 168kg, then yes, they weigh shit all. I'd wager thats a good 90kg more than your current motor. And the 6sp would also weigh another 30-40kg over your current box.
The Ecotec V6 weighs 178kg. A 10 second google search told me this.
http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf/story2/2C73E371BED2D289CA256EDA000932FD
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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the ecotec is a boat anchor and what do the arb bull bars weigh that are on jimnys if i keep the 1.3 ill be adding the weight of a 4mm thick steam pipe turbo manifold external wastegate a gt30 turbo and intercooler setup plus ill be spending $1500 on the turbo $1000 on a ecu without tuning then i need a hd clutch then maby need to build the engine the alloytec way is cheap and reliabe is it really that bad putting a v6 in a jimny i have seen them with old 130kw boat anchor buick v6 engines in them there cast iron with cast iron heads i thought the alloytec would be a good option
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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2.7turbojimny wrote: the ecotec is a boat anchor and what do the arb bull bars weigh that are on jimnys if i keep the 1.3 ill be adding the weight of a 4mm thick steam pipe turbo manifold external wastegate a gt30 turbo and intercooler setup plus ill be spending $1500 on the turbo $1000 on a ecu without tuning then i need a hd clutch then maby need to build the engine the alloytec way is cheap and reliabe is it really that bad putting a v6 in a jimny i have seen them with old 130kw boat anchor buick v6 engines in them there cast iron with cast iron heads i thought the alloytec would be a good option
Why do you feel the need to have this much power? 
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zook_ute
Joined: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 246 Location: glasshouse mtns
Vehicle: 1995 soft top vitara
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do you plan on hitting boost before redline? would end up far cheaper to turbo your current engine may not make a 190kw but would definitly get up and boggie... a gt30 turbo is far to big, a t25-t28 turbo's, even wrx turboes are ideal for the application
v6 commy motor along with a 6 speed manual is far to much, dont know why anyone would bother trying to do this. would destroy the car that it was manafactured to be. even the 1.3 with basic breathing mods would be more then enough to push a jimny up a hill let along adding some reduction gears.
anyway, goodluck with your project
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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I would be using a 1.6 bottom end then boring it around 40 thou to get more capacity to spool the turbo up with a decent merge collected manifold etc it shouldn't be to bad gt28 might be better
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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Why do you feel the need to have this much power?  [/quote]
No idea really I just like my modded cars
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:36 am |
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Skip the motor idea and do something cooler.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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SierraDan wrote: Skip the motor idea and do something cooler.
X2.
If you are going to do 25% of what you are planning, springs would be the LAST thing you'd be looking for - EVERYTHING is going to get moved so it's pretty irrelevant what springs are in it.
Steve.
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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I need to lift it so I can get my 31 inch mtzs on I'll worry about the rest later I really think a different engine though any thoughts? I want around 200kw I just don't think a 1.3 litter is enough
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Is it going to go wheeling at all?
There's nothing wrong with the 1.3\1.6 for the job they perform.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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2.7turbojimny wrote: I need to lift it so I can get my 31 inch mtzs on I'll worry about the rest later I really think a different engine though any thoughts? I want around 200kw I just don't think a 1.3 litter is enough
Jimny's aren't made to handle 200kw
Buy a patrol and stick a V8 in that if you want a really powerful 4wd 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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you wont be able to lift it with the driveline you want as your rear drive shaft
will end up being two yokes welded together.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:18 am |
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If the Jimny guys can break shit with a 1.3l(myself). With 200kw you can kiss goodbye you driveline.
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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atari4x4 wrote:
nothing better to do?
and i guess ill have to think about the engine are there h beam conrods and forged pistons etc available for the 1.6? what is the best head to use can the jimny ecu be remapped or will i have to change it
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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nah not really... quiet night at work actually 
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bailey08
Joined: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 257 Location: Brisbane North
Vehicle: 02 GV
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Just do it. Alloytec alloytec alloytec.
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2.7turbojimny
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:25 am Posts: 38 Location: tasmania
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