| Author |
Message |
ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
|
 Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:12 pm |
|
Hi all, after selling my jeep I finally purchsed a Vitara. Its a 1997 Vit with only 99xxx km's on the clock, city car.  I want to lift the car and run some muddies. I was thinking of 235/75's on a 15x7 rim, not to sure about what offset i should be going with though? Now, to help the muddies clear the guards I was thinking of going down the path of a 2" Suspension lift and 2" body lift... or is this overkill for the vit? Im not entirely sure what lift I need to run the 235's so any recommendations would be a great help:) also, because this is a 'Budget' sorta toy for me and will be my daily driver, I'd like to spend as little as possibe ( would we all...  ) Would the lowrange offroad Complete Budget 2" lift with the longer rear shocks be good enough to get me up and running? what would you personally recommend thats cheap yet effective? Would prefer to buy local if possible. Thanks in Advance, Mark.
|
|
|
|
 |
BRAD
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:21 am Posts: 563 Location: NSW
|
 Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:30 pm |
|
|
Mate I think you should go tough dog lift, it's got a great ride with it and you get a fair amount of flex I think it is a 30mm lift but that's is enough for 235tyres
|
|
|
|
 |
BRAD
Joined: Mon Feb 21, 2011 3:21 am Posts: 563 Location: NSW
|
 Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:32 pm |
|
|
Depends how much your budget is, but the lift is about the 1000 dollar mark. But it's an option
|
|
|
|
 |
jono165

az supporter
Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 12:01 pm Posts: 834 Location: Melbourne
|
 Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:59 pm |
|
|
On my Vitara i had a 2" lift and a set of 235/75/15 (federal couragia mt) on some sunnies that were +3 offset. they only just stuck outside the guards. You may need a small bumpstop spacer in the rear to stop bigger tyres eating the top of the wheel arch. 2" lift with a set of 235's looks good and will not draw much attention either as it looks fairly stock. 235's will fit on stock height but there may be a bit of rubbing on flex.
If you can stretch your budget try and get a kit that is extended struts, shocks and coils which will be a nice replacement to the older factory gear but will give more flex rather than just more static height. look at dobinsons, ironman or OME kits which all make an extend front strut.
|
|
|
|
 |
Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:23 am |
|
|
Dobinson do a good 2'' lift for just under 1k... Won't need body lift on top of that to fit 235s
|
|
|
|
 |
Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 6:49 am |
|
If your on a tight budget you can just fit spacers. Definately not the best option but its cheap. http://www.extremelimitsoffroad.com.au/prod61.htmIve got a set here i dont need. $120. Brand new. Never fitted. Bought by mistake and they wont fit the GV. Im in Melb and can even help with fitting.
_________________ B4T
Built by me to be driven like a rental
|
|
|
|
 |
got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:29 am |
|
|
Dobinson springs and struts and como rear shocks and a ball joint spacer If u want more hight add a small spacer ontop
|
|
|
|
 |
atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:39 am |
|
got_bar_work wrote: Dobinson springs and struts and como rear shocks and a ball joint spacer If u want more hight add a small spacer ontop that + camber bolts.
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
|
|
|
|
 |
Brett

az supporter
Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:13 am |
|
|
The low range budget spaces are good. Put the 235's on your stock rims and they will fit no problems
|
|
|
|
 |
ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:37 pm |
|
|
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Thinking I might stretch the budget a bit and go for something like the dobinsons kit, problem is i cant find one online to look at? maybe im not searching hard enough, can only find a spring kit without struts & shocks, but that doesnt even state if its a lift..hm. would someone be able to point me in the right direction?
So, 2" suspension lift with 235/75's on a 15x7" rim with a +5 offset might do, throw in some camber bolts and im all set, right? or wrong??... Will i need diff drop or any other spacers/brackets to get the best out of the kit i choose?
Really appreciate the help,
Cheers, Mark.
|
|
|
|
 |
Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:45 pm |
|
|
You can buy the kit from Dobinson direct (will be slightly cheaper too).
Part numbers: Front Struts: GS57-620 Rear Shocks: GS57-621 Front Springs: C57-016 Rear Springs: C57-013 Camber Kit: WA57-505K
I got 50mm lift all round using this kit and the car handles MUCH better. Will try to dig the PDF up for you.
You won't need any brake lines, drop brackets or anything else. You will need a wheel alignment once installed though.
Pete
|
|
|
|
 |
Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:46 pm |
|
|
|
 |
ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:00 pm |
|
Cheers poita, kit looks good, whats the price though  lol. whats postage cost from dobinsons direct? So I wont need to extend bumpstops either? sounds pretty dtraight forward, i likey 
|
|
|
|
 |
DarkHorse

az supporter
Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:52 pm |
|
|
With just a 35mm/2" lift you'll be fine without diff drops for the front, wouldn't hurt getting a spacer for the rear (Bits4Vits carry one). Should also be able to get by without extending bump-stops, but maybe see what the tyres and shocks do once it's fitted. I know it's shitty to do the job twice, but the rear end is a piece of piss to take apart and put back together.
Depending on strut travel you might want to look at flipping the strut mounts - easy mod for an extra 2" if the struts aren't keeping up.
|
|
|
|
 |
shandy92

az supporter
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:22 pm |
|
this is mine stock with 235's  mine with std front end +commodore shocks and nissan 180sx rear springs and 235/75/15's  mine with std front end + body lift, commodore shocks and nissan 180sx rear springs and 235/75/15's  this is mine with 2" sus and 2" body, dobinson front springs and struts, commodore shocks and nissan 180sx rear springs and 235/75/15s.  same as above but 31's  i think all up i prob would of spend $700, $500 of that was the front springs and struts lol.
|
|
|
|
 |
Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:20 pm |
|
|
Contact Dank at KPD Industries with part numbers of what you want. He can get you really good prices on the dobinsons gear...... And he's an Auszooker just like us
_________________ B4T
Built by me to be driven like a rental
|
|
|
|
 |
Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:36 pm |
|
|
Dobinson stuff for a full kit will set you back around the $900-$970 mark. No need for any brackets, flips, extensions etc, its a simple swap over.
|
|
|
|
 |
vitzookman
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:14 am Posts: 347 Location: Bris
Vehicle: 2001 XL7
|
 Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:10 pm |
|
|
|
 |
anastasios
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:36 pm Posts: 58 Location: Sydney
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:10 am |
|
|
Will 235 75 R15s fit on the stock rims at stock height on the rear?
And is there any problem with using different diameter tyres front and back?
|
|
|
|
 |
atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:12 am |
|
|
yeah they will fit on stock rims & yes it's a BIG problem running different diameter tyres front to back. if you engage 4wd you will get transmission wind up from the 2 different rolling diameters of tyres front to back.
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
|
|
|
|
 |
anastasios
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:36 pm Posts: 58 Location: Sydney
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:16 am |
|
|
will they scrub the body at stock height?
|
|
|
|
 |
atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:20 am |
|
|
probably
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
|
|
|
|
 |
got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:22 am |
|
|
My car come with 235 when I got it and it just scrubbed on a few spots That was on 0 offset rims Any thing over +5 should clear If 235 can go on stock rims I'd go with them to save some coin
|
|
|
|
 |
vitzookman
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:14 am Posts: 347 Location: Bris
Vehicle: 2001 XL7
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:07 pm |
|
anastasios wrote: And is there any problem with using different diameter tyres front and back?
Only off road, you could go dragster on road lol...
|
|
|
|
 |
ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:21 pm |
|
Has anyone got any feedback on this kit that vitzookman linked?? http://www.outdoorauto4x4.com/p/4901090 ... t-swb.html Its only 40mm but i could just add 10 or 15mm coild spacers i guess? This whole rim offset thing has got me a bit worried, i dont wanna go to much offset or not enough.. Throw some pics up of your offset and some info of the rims/lift if you have any guys:)
|
|
|
|
 |
Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
Vehicle: 2010 Suzuki Swift Sports
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:39 pm |
|
|
The kit is the standard dobinson kit. They rate it conservatively but i got 50mm.
|
|
|
|
 |
atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 8:48 pm |
|
PM "Dank" aka KPD4x4.com viewtopic.php?f=15&p=552387#p552387I'm sure he'll be able to beat OutdoorAuto's price + being in Vic you wont need to pay much freight if you can't pick it up.
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
|
|
|
|
 |
shandy92

az supporter
Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
|
 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:02 pm |
|
mate yes 235's do fit without lift, see my pics above^^^^ i run -13/15 on a 15x7. got a bit of scrub but nothing major, 235's on stock rims fit with out scrubbing. as seen below this is joe's vit 
|
|
|
|
 |
dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
|
 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:44 pm |
|
Thanks for the referrals Atari and B4T, Mark has gone for a Dobinsons Kit direct to his door from KPD4x4.COM. And yes, I will beat any legitimate quote 
_________________ LIKE US ON FACEBOOK - KPD4x4
|
|
|
|
 |
ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
|
 Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 4:48 pm |
|
|
Yeah thanks for pointing me in the right direction boys:)
And thanks to Dan for the great service, cant wait to get the kit fitted with some 235's!
|
|
|
|
 |
|