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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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Hey all have searched but couldnt find the pros and cons...
im gettin my new tyres today and they have tubes..there on patrol rims so i have to get them changed onto mine...
Should i keep the tubes or just run them normal?
if it means anything there a 34x10.5 15...and on my sierra!
cheers
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:15 am |
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Tubes are useful as a poor mans bead lock. And helpful if tyres suffer from bead leaks.
But unless tubes are the hd simex type, and if tyres are in good nick, I personally wouldn't bother with tubes.
If you spin a tyre on the rim, it can rip valve off, instant flat.
But simex tubes come with an insert for the rims valve hole, which is kinder to valve stems. It is possible that rims have had thier holes drilled for the inserts, which could make it harder to fit tubeless stems.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:21 am |
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i ran tubes in my simex tyres for the reasons christover says above... don't forget they also add weight to the wheel and can make them harder to balance.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:25 am |
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The tubes are probably in there for a reason. I bet the beads are leaking
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:27 am |
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But you are not using the rims the tyres came with, so depends on condition of your rims and the tyres bead surfaces.
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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 3:55 pm |
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ill just chuck em in....got em anyway...haha
the guy i got em off swears by tubes hy just got a set of 35" mtzs and they have tubes in em! haha
cheers guys!
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 5:53 pm |
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tubeless means easy repairs with a plug. having said that i am putting 16inch splitrims on my sierra so will have to run tubes.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13004 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 6:49 pm |
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Tubes will see you though for a little while until you get beadlocks.
Tubes should let you run around 8psi with some reliability, however, depending on what you are driving, you might want to run 1/2 that- 4psi. In general, those swampers will keep working better ther softer you run them.
Also bear in mind that if the rims and tyres are in reasonable nick, a lost bead on a tubeless tyre is no big deal, however, a spun tube is a pita.
Take some tubeless valve stems with you. If you spin a tube, at least you can pull the tube out and put a tubeless stem in.
I have nothing against tubes, it's just they aren't beadlocks, which is what those tyres need.
Steve
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:42 pm |
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Tubes are shit., once you get a puncture you have to dismantle the wheel assembly to fix it unlike a tubeless ( <--------- a reason for this word.) A tube is good for a split rim & swimming... that's about it.
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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:01 pm |
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chhers guys! yeah steve i had to pop beads back on when i had the swampers on my blue one..... and had to clean a bead and re pop it on with my simexs too!
goo idea on carrying a few valves! cheers guys
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13004 Location: Melbourne
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twitchy wrote: Tubes are shit., once you get a puncture you have to dismantle the wheel assembly to fix it unlike a tubeless ( <--------- a reason for this word.) A tube is good for a split rim & swimming... that's about it. I've never seen a Sierra with a puncture. I have, however, seen countless tyres fall off beads. Tubeless tyres will burp air when the sidewalls are loaded up, and the next burp has the tyre off the bead. Tubes prevent the tyre burping air when they lift off the rim, which in inevitable without beadlocks. Steve.
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suzukikid
Joined: Sun Jan 14, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 2803 Location: Melton Victoria!
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 Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 7:27 am |
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Yeah Righto makes sence! Will do till I save up some coins for a bead lock kit! Cheers bud
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