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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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i was talking to some today about my suspension on my 95 sierra i m running an efs 2 inch lift at the moment and the travel i get is not the best i have droped a leaf and i m still not as happy with the travel i get out of it i was going to get a biger lift kit but i think it will still be the same but i got to get a set of rear leaf and move them to the front for more travel.
Is this a good idea and if so what is needed to do it as i m sorta confused on how to do it cheers
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bigrig91
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1308 Location: Redcliffe
Vehicle: 96 LWB Vit, 2.5L powerhouse
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Search RUF i think mate. should be heaps of how to's. Rear spring pack up front, i think u have to re drill your spring perch or something.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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Look for posts with or by members such as want33s, fatzook,gwagonsteve,Bruce,2 stroker. And check out Alex 's build its nearly a step by step RUf.
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Daves4wd

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Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 1286 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Swb Sierra twin lock 32s 6.5s
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Try getting longer shocks as they might limit down travel and get bump stops spacers so you don't bottom them out
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Daves4wd wrote: Try getting longer shocks as they might limit down travel and get bump stops spacers so you don't bottom them out Here we go again, this is not good advice.
Last edited by 2stroker on Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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so what is the "correct advice" 2stroker?
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:15 pm |
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i want it done in the most safe way possible
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Daves4wd

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Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2011 3:17 pm Posts: 1286 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Swb Sierra twin lock 32s 6.5s
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There are so many ways to do a RUF there all right and wrong so far the shit storms that have been started it's still gotten nowhere so far you need to exstend the chassis and move the rear spring hanger how far it's different for everyone do what suits your driving And the longer shocks and bumps stomps is referred to still running lifted front springs not ruf
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Daves4wd you just recommended longer shocks and bump stop extensions yet you have no idea what he is currently running or why he has restricted travel at the moment, you have no idea what size tyres he is running, for all you know his problem could be that he has extended bump stops.
Atari4x4 I wouldn't give him any advice till I asked him to clarify details of his current set up.
Dave4wd just wondering how many ruf have YOU actually done.
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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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Have you taken your swaybar off? Prob the first and easiest place to start.
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Please answer the following:
- What shocks are you running - what length are they compressed and extended - did you buy the springs new - how many leaves front and rear - how much travel do you currently have, up travel, down travel - how are you measuring your travel - why do you believe you have poor travel
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:51 am |
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i can answer some at the moment i runing efs shocks. yes i brought the springs new. i m running 3 leaves in the front and 4 leaves in the back i just beleave i have pore travel as i m lifting wheels a fear bit but thinking about it that could just be the lines i pick/take. that is all i can answer at the moment
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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Does your current setup allow the diffs to flex up and hit the bumpstops?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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chris95 wrote: i can answer some at the moment i runing efs shocks. yes i brought the springs new. i m running 3 leaves in the front and 4 leaves in the back i just beleave i have pore travel as i m lifting wheels a fear bit but thinking about it that could just be the lines i pick/take. that is all i can answer at the moment ALL sierras pick up wheels. Its a SWB thing.
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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i no that it is sort of for in the long run as i m slowly making itinto a comp car aswell but i m doing it slowly
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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You need to cycle the suspension through its full range of motion to establish if you are:
a. flexing up to the bump stops
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b. that the shockies are not the limiting factor in your down travel.
I would think that if you have a full set of EFS springs and matching shockies you should be getting pretty good flex. Do you have any pics of the car picking up wheels
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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pull the shocks out and flex her up
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:48 pm |
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no dont think so but i think i m being a bit fussy i was flexing it out today and it seems ohk
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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2stroker wrote: You need to cycle the suspension through its full range of motion to establish if you are:
a. flexing up to the bump stops
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b. that the shockies are not the limiting factor in your down travel.
I would think that if you have a full set of EFS springs and matching shockies you should be getting pretty good flex. Do you have any pics of the car picking up wheels A full set if i remember correctly is 4 leafs front and 5 leafs rear + a load. All 7mm thick. Rock solid ride and minimal flex with the full packs
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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JrZook wrote: 2stroker wrote: You need to cycle the suspension through its full range of motion to establish if you are:
a. flexing up to the bump stops
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b. that the shockies are not the limiting factor in your down travel.
I would think that if you have a full set of EFS springs and matching shockies you should be getting pretty good flex. Do you have any pics of the car picking up wheels A full set if i remember correctly is 4 leafs front and 5 leafs rear + a load. All 7mm thick. Rock solid ride and minimal flex with the full packs that is right i have already dropped the leafs out to get the flex and make it a smoother ride
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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chris95 wrote: JrZook wrote: 2stroker wrote: You need to cycle the suspension through its full range of motion to establish if you are:
a. flexing up to the bump stops
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b. that the shockies are not the limiting factor in your down travel.
I would think that if you have a full set of EFS springs and matching shockies you should be getting pretty good flex. Do you have any pics of the car picking up wheels A full set if i remember correctly is 4 leafs front and 5 leafs rear + a load. All 7mm thick. Rock solid ride and minimal flex with the full packs that is right i have already dropped the leafs out to get the flex and make it a smoother ride Yeah what I meant by a full set is all 4 springs, i.e. if you have EFS all round and you know they are EFS because you bought them new (they are not a mix of various leaves with an EFS sticker on one of the leaves) and you have a set of long travel EFS shocies to suit the springs.
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chris95
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:58 am Posts: 122 Location: sunshine coast qld
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 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 5:17 pm |
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yes it was a efs elite 2 inch lift kit i brought brande new
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reeceh

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Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:45 am Posts: 1230 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 91 sierra, g16b,lift,30's
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Jrzook had a look at my rig last night. I have the 65mm full efs kit. He couldn't believed how solid it was. Compared to his. Mine was like a train to his boat! You could pull one corner down quite easily. He recommended atleast pull the one leaf above load leaf out of all the packs.
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ZookFan
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:19 am Posts: 3978 Location: Brisbane,samford,QLD
Vehicle: 92 Sierra Tin Top, 3 X LJ 81's
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2stroker wrote: Daves4wd wrote: Try getting longer shocks as they might limit down travel and get bump stops spacers so you don't bottom them out Here we go again, this is not good advice. That's exactly what I did..had heaps less travel than a stocker 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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I bet it's seriously unstable now.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Last year he was on "P" plates asking what the inside of a diff looks like, SierraDan has come a long way in a short time, have a good look through his build thread, he has done it on a budget through trial and error, no better way to learn.
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