[eldo]

im hopefully doing this, who has done it? can it be done? etc etc
i dont want to remove the mounts and remount them on the outside of the chssis if possible. what do you all reckon?

[brodiezook]

ive been told that the NT spacing is to narrow and that the spring perch will be sitting on the pumkin ..

brodie

[lump_a_charcoal]

Yeah I think the front will foul.
The rear will be fine, but you want a bundera diff there anyway(better tailshaft angle) but then it will foul as well.

[31zook]

On NIK's truck they had to change the spring spacings on the front so it didn't foul on the pumpkin. But on the rear the perch's were changed on the axles. NIK runs lux rear axle with no vibration. That's only a LWB trait

[eldo]

ok thanks for the replies so far. It is a lwb so i dont need the bundy rear. Did you guys have to change the brake booster etc

[31zook]

i don't think NIK did, i think he just got longer lines made up with the correct ends on them... but i could be wrong

[Nik]

Hey mate, my spring haners were outboarded (perfect time for a ruf your welding anyway) and the spring pads on the rear were moved inwards.
I left my brake cylinder alone and the lines match up.
It can be done but it is a bit involved, drive shafts should bolt up (cant remember which zuk ones though but mine did) brakes bolt up, you will need shocks and new front upper and rear lower mounts. A traction bar or real stiff rear springs etc.
But saying that its one of the best mods Ive done. I think my set up was perfect on 33s good all round balance and very stable on angles. 33s fit without any other lift just correct bumpstops.
Nik

[eldo]

thanks nik, thats some good info. just confirm something for me, you ended up moving front and the rear spring hangers on the outside like a WT?????
also do you have a build thread so i can read what you did etc?
is yours engineered? if so who by?

[Nik]

The front springs are outboarded like w/t to match lux diffs, the rears are stock with the spring pads on the diff moved inwards.
You would think Id have a build thread hey there is some pics but until I post up more there is some on the "other" forum under the same user name.
I used vtol engineering in garden suburbs.... but athol mullens will do it (as long as you do it right)
I,l get back tonight to answer any questions.
Nik

[2stroker]

Hi eldo, mate I was wondering what are you trying to achieve with hilux diffs, you will get different results depending on how you do this conversion.

Hi nik - I guess when you say the drive shafts "just bolt up" you mean length is OK because suzuki won't bolt up to toyota, same with brakes again not sure what you mean by "brakes bolt up". You mention 2 work shops, did you actually do the conversion or did you have it done at one of those places.

[steve]

Sierra widetrack shafts bolts straight to Hilux diff centers, even the little locating rings match.

and they must be the same as GV shaft flanges, coz they match too .. I think Suzuki must still be using left over Sierra flanges for Grand Vitaras

I'm pretty sure the Sierra brake lines fit the Hilux brakes too, i can't remember exactly but i don't remember changing them.

[LAY80N]

steve wrote:

Sierra widetrack shafts bolts straight to Hilux diff centers, even the little locating rings match.

and they must be the same as GV shaft flanges, coz they match too .. I think Suzuki must still be using left over Sierra flanges for Grand Vitaras

I'm pretty sure the Sierra brake lines fit the Hilux brakes too, i can't remember exactly but i don't remember changing them.

The brake lines should fit the lux brakes

Layto....

[shep]

does a hilux master cyl and booster need to be used?

[eldo]

2stroker wrote:

Hi eldo, mate I was wondering what are you trying to achieve with hilux diffs, you will get different results depending on how you do this conversion.

Hi nik - I guess when you say the drive shafts "just bolt up" you mean length is OK because suzuki won't bolt up to toyota, same with brakes again not sure what you mean by "brakes bolt up". You mention 2 work shops, did you actually do the conversion or did you have it done at one of those places.

i am after a more stable rig (track) as well as the strength that you gain from using the toyota axles, i figure i will have to do the same mods to fit a set of WT diffs so why not go for the hilux straight up.

[31zook]

Im a going from NT to lux will be a huge stability gain. I drive niks truck around and i rekon it's just as stable as my truck on WT 31's (offset) and a body lift. And his truck is tall enough to sit under...lol

[eldo]

hey nik can you post me a link to your build up on the other forum please, although i have probably read it already i think

[31zook]

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/ftopic136 ... highlight=

[Nik]

Haha I was thinking how Im I going to post a link!!
Yes you can sit under mine, well just (but I am trying to lower it) and it is quite stable for a zuk so high.
Yes drive shafts bolt up, Im running a stock rear now after destroying a shortened lux d/s (being silly)
Brakes bolt up too. Im still running zuk master cylinder and its ok, could be better cause Im picky but it does well on the pink slip brake test.
I,ll get some more picks on the weekend.
Mine was done at overkill.
I did it for strenght as I wanted to run ATLEAST a 32 and with the extra weight of a lwb plus I wanted to carry 4 people plus luggage and not break.
I know there is other ways NOW but when I did it chromolys were just coming out and toys was a cheaper stronger option.
But saying that if it was just me (alot less weight) Id do things differently.
Hope some of that dribble helps,
Nik

[eldo]

i too want to carry 4 people and camping gear etc, i also will be going hunting in it and there is some crazy angles up there in the hills, so the wider the better, im planning on running my 32 inch STT until they are worn and then i will get some 33's,im aiming for low wide and locked

[31zook]

YES! can't wait to see your build complete eldo, will be pretty freaken cool

[jimbo_jones]

You done anymore body work?
I told you you need to make it suit the wide track spacing

[eldo]

have not touched it for a week. I am hopefully moving it up home in a few days so i will be able to work on it in the afternoons. Looks like i need to get some mounts off a wt and start welding

[jimbo_jones]

if I get this chassie of ebay I'll give to the mounts you need

[eldo]

has anyone got any tips for removing the WT mounts and welding them onto the NT chassis ???? or did you fab up new mounts etc???