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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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Hello, The left hub on my SV620 keeps coming loose. Every few 4wd trips i'll start to here some seriously concerning noises every time I turn in 4x4, and it is the hub bolts that have all popped out. When I bolt them in again, it's works fine. Whats making them pop out all the time, and how can I keep them in there? (I thought loctite, but there is too much grease in the threads). Also, it is JUST the left hub, right never causes dramas. Cheers. Here's some pics. Thank god for the plastic casing, otherwise I would loose the bolts every few weeks  This time two bolts stayed in  This is the inside of the hub 
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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 Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:23 pm |
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My mistake, the right side was loose too, far from coming off though
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rockcrawlerdude
Joined: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:30 pm Posts: 298
Vehicle: 1985 LWB sierra
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 Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2013 4:27 pm |
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1DYX
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:48 pm Posts: 435 Location: Eastern Suburbs WA
Vehicle: 1997 Sierra SJ80
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You could use locktite, just have to wash out the holes and bolts first. But as above, try a heavy duty spring washer, first, and torque wrench to specs. Dip the holes, to see if you can use a slightly longer caphead bolt, as well.
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leafs4lyf
Joined: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:29 pm Posts: 47
Vehicle: Sierra
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Just make some washers with locking tabs.
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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There is clearly something amiss, but as suggested above, I would be inclined to swap to hex head bolts and use some locking tabs. "Stage8 Fasteners" Are a great product. Not the cheapest option, but impossible to vibrate loose. When your hubs are not clearly visible or obscured by a cap it could well be a worthwhile option. 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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total worst case scenario, but you could drill small holes through the heads of all the bolt and pass some wire through them all =) that'd stop them twisting out.
Are you sure the bolts are the right size for the threads? maybe its ever so slightly undersized and that's the issue?
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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Thank you all for you input, I think split washers are the go, as I have heaps of them. I have already put the hubs back together, so they will have to last the glass house trip tomorrow. And so will this.... (Found a massive tear in the CV Boot, no idea how long that has been there)  Got some old push bike tube and zippy tied + duck taped it on 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Loc tite is a bad idea in my opinion. I started using anti seize on mine. Hub bolts are a known weak point and can break off, but are an easy track side fix. But if you loc tite them, you will never be able to remove the broke studs in the bush. Hub bolts do come loose, regular checks is wise. Spares is wise, too. I bought 60 series studs with nuts for mine, off ebay. Newness is better than the 20 year old bolts that were breaking and coming loose..
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Spring washers, or swap to an AISIN FWHs which use the cone sleeves and spring washers.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Definitely say no to loctite on hub bolts.
Steve.
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damagera

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Joined: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:55 pm Posts: 79
Vehicle: 1991 swb vitara JLX
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you could always drill a hole thru the bolt heads and wire them together its called twitching i think ive seen it done on race cars and on aircraft parts stops the bolts from rotating out
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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damagera wrote: you could always drill a hole thru the bolt heads and wire them together its called twitching i think ive seen it done on race cars and on aircraft parts stops the bolts from rotating out Hey that's pretty smart. Not sure if I could be bothered though hahah. Might just stick with split washers haha
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offroadjack
Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:09 am Posts: 292 Location: la la land
Vehicle: 96 SV620 shitbox
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christover1 wrote: Loc tite is a bad idea in my opinion. I started using anti seize on mine. Hub bolts are a known weak point and can break off, but are an easy track side fix. But if you loc tite them, you will never be able to remove the broke studs in the bush. Hub bolts do come loose, regular checks is wise. Spares is wise, too. I bought 60 series studs with nuts for mine, off ebay. Newness is better than the 20 year old bolts that were breaking and coming loose.. That would be the go ! To try anyway, but they ain't cheap (genuine I mean) I had 2 60 series cruisers and lost a few of them as well so still not bullet proof. I have never seen them come loose tho on my vit... Try spring washers and see how that goes.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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karlmarkiewicz wrote: damagera wrote: you could always drill a hole thru the bolt heads and wire them together its called twitching i think ive seen it done on race cars and on aircraft parts stops the bolts from rotating out Hey that's pretty smart. Not sure if I could be bothered though hahah. Might just stick with split washers haha lol cos i didnt suggest the same thing 5 days earlier =)
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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alien wrote: karlmarkiewicz wrote: damagera wrote: you could always drill a hole thru the bolt heads and wire them together its called twitching i think ive seen it done on race cars and on aircraft parts stops the bolts from rotating out Hey that's pretty smart. Not sure if I could be bothered though hahah. Might just stick with split washers haha lol cos i didnt suggest the same thing 5 days earlier =) Oh, hahah you did too. Sorry, that must have slipped by me. christover1 wrote: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130917477860?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 Thanks for that.
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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Cone washers more than anything!
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