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BenT
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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
Vehicle: 85 SJ413
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 7:20 pm |
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A mate of mine wanted rear disc brakes for his Vitara, so I have developed a kit.
It is a completely bolt-on conversion.
It uses standard Suzuki front brake rotors, and common brake calipers from a Mitsubishi Galant, which include a handbrake in the caliper and are sized correctly to work without an additional proportioning valve.
The kit connects the stock Suzuki handbrake cable to the caliper with no modifications to the cable required.
The kit contains:
Caliper mounting brackets
Disc mounting adaptors
Replacement caliper handbrake quadrants
Handbrake cable brackets
Brake hose brackets & clips
Handbrake cable mounting hardware
Longer wheel studs
All required mounting bolts
Brake hard lines pre-flared with nuts.
3-way T piece
Instructions
The only parts required are:
Mitsubishi calipers and brake hoses
Suzuki brake discs
Brake fluid.
Silicone sealer / gasket maker
Can be installed with simple hand tools in a few hours.
Price is $350AU + shipping
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steak_knife
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:39 pm |
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Wow
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Rusho
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:51 pm |
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steknig wrote: 8O Wow
x2 my shopping list just keeps getting bigger. Good work Ben
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Joe
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 8:55 pm |
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Good stuff matey thats a little sweet kit ill be looking at geting one of these off ya soon
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:44 pm |
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simply awesome
what year/model Mitsubishi Galant do the caliper come off?
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BenT
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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:30 am |
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Thanks for the kind words guys..
Calipers come off late 80s early 90s Mitsi Galants
Ben
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atari4x4
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 12:38 am |
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ok silly question time... fronts or rears?
i'm guessing rears.
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BenT
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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:09 am |
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Oh yeah, my bad, forgot to mention that.
Kit uses the REAR mitsi caliper. Some budget spec 1.8 models have rear drums, but most have rear disc.
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royce
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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:30 am |
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Can you go without the disc adaptor and fit em up to later vitaras that have the wheel studs in the axle?
happy for you to send a kit over for me to try
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BenT
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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:45 am |
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royce wrote: Can you go without the disc adaptor and fit em up to later vitaras that have the wheel studs in the axle? happy for you to send a kit over for me to try
I haven't tried a kit on one of the later axles yet. I think I know where one of those axles is, so I will see if I can get hold of it and check.
Ben
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Jester
Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 726 Location: Adelaide
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 2:59 am |
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with the longer wheel studs is this gonna make our rear wheels stick out further? if so how much?
what type of suzuki front rotors do we use on the back? sierra? swb vit?
could be very interested.
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:01 am |
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BenT wrote: royce wrote: Can you go without the disc adaptor and fit em up to later vitaras that have the wheel studs in the axle? happy for you to send a kit over for me to try I haven't tried a kit on one of the later axles yet. I think I know where one of those axles is, so I will see if I can get hold of it and check. Ben
I would be interested in the kit for the later axle.
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:21 am |
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Sweet! where do i sign up?
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BenT
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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:33 pm |
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Jester wrote: with the longer wheel studs is this gonna make our rear wheels stick out further? if so how much? Yep, your track width is increased slightly by the thickness of the centre piece of the brake disc - about 7mm per side. Jester wrote: what type of suzuki front rotors do we use on the back? sierra? swb vit? could be very interested.
Either will work, but Sierra ones line up slightly better in the caliper, as the Vit disc have 1mm less offset (f*ck knows why).
Ben
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BenT
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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:41 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: BenT wrote: royce wrote: Can you go without the disc adaptor and fit em up to later vitaras that have the wheel studs in the axle? happy for you to send a kit over for me to try I haven't tried a kit on one of the later axles yet. I think I know where one of those axles is, so I will see if I can get hold of it and check. Ben I would be interested in the kit for the later axle.
OK. I got hold of a later axle and did some checking. Unfortunately the newer axle has a different offset from the housing end to the wheel mating surface, so does not work with the current brackets. Also the seal housing can't be moved far enough away from the bearing to get the caliper bracket in place.
Could get round this by using a thin wheel spacer (about 6-8mm), longer studs, and a bit of grinding of the seal housing. This would require removing the wheel bearings to modify the seal housing though.
The better option is probably going to be me making another caliper mounting bracket with a bend in it to get the right offset, and slightly thinner to fit between the seal housing and the bearing. Then it would all bolt together easy peasy.
How many people have the later style axle and would be interested in this?
Ben
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BenT
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 4:42 pm |
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Polar_Bear wrote: Sweet! where do i sign up?
Send me a PM
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Joe
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:24 pm |
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Mine is a 96 EFI 1600 would mine be the later style axle?????
If so i would be interested in you making another kit
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shandy92
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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:37 pm |
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what yr does the later model axle come in?
i would be interested as well, i have the same as joe (96' EFI)
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BenT
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Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Nelson, NZ
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:59 pm |
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joseph wrote: Mine is a 96 EFI 1600 would mine be the later style axle????? If so i would be interested in you making another kit
I think changeover is 96, so yours probably has the newer axle.
Easy way to check is to have a look in the centre of the wheel. If there are 4 nuts holding the drum on to the axle, then you have an early axle.
If there are no nuts in the centre of the wheel other than the wheel nuts, and the wheel studs are attached to the axle then you have the later style.
You will need to take the centre cap off to check this if you still have stock wheels.
Ben
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atari4x4
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:03 pm |
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put me down for a late model kit, when you get it sorted!
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royce
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:19 pm |
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mines 10/95 with later axles, if you have the later dash chances are you have the later diff
BenT, it would probably pay to check the later again 2lt and GV's as well to see if they would all share a common bracket before you tool up for it, GV's would probably be your biggest market
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BlueSuzy
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:25 pm |
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With the model Mitsu Galant. Do you have pictures of the model?
Australia did not get many Galants. And most of them are jap/nz imported. Nz got alot more variations.
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atari4x4
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:26 pm |
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royce wrote: mines 10/95 with later axles, if you have the later dash chances are you have the later diff
BenT, it would probably pay to check the later again 2lt and GV's as well to see if they would all share a common bracket before you tool up for it, GV's would probably be your biggest market
valid point royce, i know the drums are a quite bit larger on my 2.0l vitara (SV420) compared to the 1.6l (SE416) i would assume the drums on the GV's are size similar to what i'm running.
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royce
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:43 pm |
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BlueSuzy wrote: With the model Mitsu Galant. Do you have pictures of the model?
Australia did not get many Galants. And most of them are jap/nz imported. Nz got alot more variations.
hehe I know where there is one currently being driven by somebody known to destroy cars really fast, I already have my name on them
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BenT
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Posted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:57 pm |
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royce wrote: mines 10/95 with later axles, if you have the later dash chances are you have the later diff
BenT, it would probably pay to check the later again 2lt and GV's as well to see if they would all share a common bracket before you tool up for it, GV's would probably be your biggest market
Yeah, good call. I will see if I can track down a GV diff to see how they compare.
BEn
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BenT
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:00 am |
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BlueSuzy wrote: With the model Mitsu Galant. Do you have pictures of the model?
Australia did not get many Galants. And most of them are jap/nz imported. Nz got alot more variations.
Yeah, we do have a lot over here. Some Jap imports, some assembled here, back when we had an automotive industry.
Here's a pic of the model. 89-93ish. E33 Galant.
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robbo
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 12:52 am |
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Have the later vit sv620 imagine it should be the same as atari. Keen for a kit when you get them sorted
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BlueSuzy
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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:16 am |
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Yeah those basic Galants are rare over here. I think i have only seen the Import turbo 4wd ones.
We had the Australian Made Magna, so i don't think Mitsubishi Australia wanted 2 large cars on the same market here.
The Galants probably drove a hell of alot better though
Alot of brake calipers are probably very generic. So there may be another mitsu out there that is similar in aus with the same calipers. Maybe similar shape rounder magna's 91'+?
Anywho, The kit looks good Ben.T.
If i had a vit. I'd buy that kit!
(You dont do them for bundera/lux rear diffs do you?)
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:07 pm |
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steak_knife
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:24 pm |
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Polar_Bear wrote:
You need one of them & a left one, thay are different side to side.
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