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I've got the 170 cig inverter. It was about $400
I do all my welding with it pretty much.
I just bought a tig setup for it as well
Only thing I've found shit about it is it's very crap at welding car panels

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Only thing I've found shit about it is it's very crap at welding car panels


Bad tradesmen blame their tools :wink:

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:34 am 
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Only thing I've found shit about it is it's very crap at welding car panels


Bad tradesmen blame their tools :wink:
It burns through at 5amp, so I blame the welder. Although I can't really weld :cry:

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:42 am 
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^ what wire?

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^ what wire?
was inverter not the tig, so was a 2.5mm rod

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Only thing I've found shit about it is it's very crap at welding car panels


Bad tradesmen blame their tools :wink:
It burns through at 5amp, so I blame the welder. Although I can't really weld :cry:


reverse the polarity and have another go :wink:

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:20 am 
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maybe I'm going soft here, but stick welders arenot really for welding uber thin suzuki panels.

buy a mig you fucking tight wads . or if you have a tig learn to use it properly.

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maybe I'm going soft here, but stick welders arenot really for welding uber thin suzuki panels.

buy a mig you fucking tight wads . or if you have a tig learn to use it properly.


Or give oxy welding ago. Works quite well 8)

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:51 am 
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I'm waiting on gas for my tig so can't use that.
Only had to do a few welds so no need to waste money on a mig
I'm good a oxy. Way better at it then, mig, tig, and stick

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:52 am 
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as much as i would like a mig a inverter will do what i want/need for the moment also thinks to mnemonix for helping me out and loaning me his for a trial run :)

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Ive got one of the new tradetools 180's. Yes its a cheap unit and everyone bags out on cheap units, but for what I do it works very well. It sticks metal to metal... has a euro fitting so gun replacement/liners are easy... and its pretty cheap.. no need to go spend $1000 on a big name brand with similar specs.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:03 am 
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as much as i would like a mig a inverter will do what i want/need for the moment also thinks to mnemonix for helping me out and loaning me his for a trial run :)

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I don't understand why you keep saying you don't want a MIG, but an inverter will do the job.

The term 'Inverter' just refers to the power source. You can get inverter MMA, TIG and MIG :crazy:

What you are asking about ( as far as I can tell) is Inverter MMA/TIG machines.

I have one of these for portable welding. Comes with MMA and TIG leads etc. All you'll need is a Reg and gas to use TIG. MMA is plug and play. I've got quite a few hours up on mine so far and it hasn't missed a beat.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:39 am 
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your right there pete.

yep i would love a mig, however $$$ is a thing and also a arc/tig will do what i want atm. i also want to do some tig work in the future.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:44 am 
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your right there pete.

yep i would love a mig, however $$$ is a thing and also a arc/tig will do what i want atm. i also want to do some tig work in the future.


you do realise that tig requires a gas rental and is by far the most expensive and slowest form of welding besides oxy welding

so basicly you stuck with a arc welder

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:46 am 
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your right there pete.

yep i would love a mig, however $$$ is a thing and also a arc/tig will do what i want atm. i also want to do some tig work in the future.


you do realise that tig requires a gas rental and is by far the most expensive and slowest form of welding besides oxy welding

so basicly you stuck with a arc welder


you do realise that yes i have done some tig welding, and a few mates rent gas so i can loan a bottle for a weekend or what ever.

i can already fusion weld. i am just expanding my skill set. :roll:

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do they have the right gas for what tig welding you want to do. and stainless you will need pure argon it doesnt like normal argon carbon dioxide mix like what most people have on their mig and argon is to expensive to waste. for not much more and you can get an inverter mig that will do tig welding as well it will also come with a tig torch and gas line and the mig gun is a euro fitting easy to swap.

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do they have the right gas for what tig welding you want to do. and stainless you will need pure argon it doesnt like normal argon carbon dioxide mix like what most people have on their mig and argon is to expensive to waste. for not much more and you can get an inverter mig that will do tig welding as well it will also come with a tig torch and gas line and the mig gun is a euro fitting easy to swap.


If Phil quadrippled his budget they may let him in the door to look at one of those machines. :lol:

I use pure Argon for SS TIG and Mild steel. I've never actually tried a Argon blend with mild steel while TIGing :?

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do they have the right gas for what tig welding you want to do. and stainless you will need pure argon it doesnt like normal argon carbon dioxide mix like what most people have on their mig and argon is to expensive to waste. for not much more and you can get an inverter mig that will do tig welding as well it will also come with a tig torch and gas line and the mig gun is a euro fitting easy to swap.


If Phil quadrippled his budget they may let him in the door to look at one of those machines. :lol:

I use pure Argon for SS TIG and Mild steel. I've never actually tried a Argon blend with mild steel while TIGing :?


Ive been tiging with argo shield on mild lately it works ok , but then it works well with mig so there's no reason why it wouldnt.

I mig stainless with argoshield with good results as well.
but the more I get back into tig the more I remember how fucking slow and painfull it is :x

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but the more I get back into tig the more I remember how fucking slow and painfull it is :x



but the end result (if done well) is so pretty

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but the more I get back into tig the more I remember how fucking slow and painfull it is :x



but the end result (if done well) is so pretty


Who gives a shit. I know a few blokes that can run SERIOUSLY tidy beads, but a decent hit with the hammer shows the lack of penetration.

AJ, I'm doing more and more TIG these days. I find it therepeutic :wink:

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what does everyone think of gassless migs ive got the chance to buy a cheap just for small jobs around home and for car things like bars

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what does everyone think of gassless migs ive got the chance to buy a cheap just for small jobs around home and for car things like bars

Im not sure I can express my dislike for them here with out using words that will make children cry or get me banned :wink:
some of them do work reasonably well at sticking metal togther :wink:

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something like this?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cigweld-Weld ... 35aeececc8

i will be using it to build my camper trailer (frame etc, all the bigger stuff on the trailer, hitch etc, will be done with a bigger mig) and small jobs on the zook


I was given one of them at my last job, and it worked awesome. I was a forklift mechanic and mostly used it to repair load gaurds and weld hose brackets onto masts etc. Was good for around 5mm mild steel

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what does everyone think of gassless migs ive got the chance to buy a cheap just for small jobs around home and for car things like bars

Im not sure I can express my dislike for them here with out using words that will make children cry or get me banned :wink:
some of them do work reasonably well at sticking metal togther :wink:


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but the more I get back into tig the more I remember how fucking slow and painfull it is :x



but the end result (if done well) is so pretty


Who gives a shit. I know a few blokes that can run SERIOUSLY tidy beads, but a decent hit with the hammer shows the lack of penetration.

AJ, I'm doing more and more TIG these days. I find it therepeutic :wink:


i love tig welding especially when wearing ear plugs no one else to bother you in your own little world i kinda really enjoy ally tig cause the end result looks sexy.

must of miss interpreted my post before i meant that i use pure argon for my tig welder and argosheild mix for my mig. you can tig weld stainless with argosheild mix but it really isnt fun to do very frustrating and not as nice weld quality.

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oh... here is my new tig.

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used it as a arc the other day to shave my front diff and i have to say.. it was great!

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after seeing the welds on your shaved diff I defineatly think a mig would have been a better buy :thefinger:

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after seeing the welds on your shaved diff I defineatly think a mig would have been a better buy :thefinger:


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