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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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BlueSuzy wrote: ball wrote: not a chance tubby  Whoa fooking hell. No need to be racist here thanks. 
Fat isn't a race, its an eating condition 
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joel
Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Dirranbandi
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ball wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: ball wrote: not a chance tubby  Whoa fooking hell. No need to be racist here thanks.  Fat isn't a race, its an island of n.z it doesnt count 
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:02 pm |
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I've got the 170 cig inverter. It was about $400
I do all my welding with it pretty much.
I just bought a tig setup for it as well
Only thing I've found shit about it is it's very crap at welding car panels
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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zooky08 wrote: Only thing I've found shit about it is it's very crap at welding car panels
Bad tradesmen blame their tools 
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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Fatzook wrote: zooky08 wrote: Only thing I've found shit about it is it's very crap at welding car panels Bad tradesmen blame their tools  It burns through at 5amp, so I blame the welder. Although I can't really weld 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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^ what wire?
Ball, Gollywog is banned on biscuit packets, but maybe phil likes scallywags on a 3% discount
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:51 am |
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BlueSuzy wrote: ^ what wire? was inverter not the tig, so was a 2.5mm rod
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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zooky08 wrote: Fatzook wrote: zooky08 wrote: Only thing I've found shit about it is it's very crap at welding car panels Bad tradesmen blame their tools  It burns through at 5amp, so I blame the welder. Although I can't really weld 
reverse the polarity and have another go 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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maybe I'm going soft here, but stick welders arenot really for welding uber thin suzuki panels.
buy a mig you fucking tight wads . or if you have a tig learn to use it properly.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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ajsr wrote: maybe I'm going soft here, but stick welders arenot really for welding uber thin suzuki panels.
buy a mig you fucking tight wads . or if you have a tig learn to use it properly.
Or give oxy welding ago. Works quite well 
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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I'm waiting on gas for my tig so can't use that.
Only had to do a few welds so no need to waste money on a mig
I'm good a oxy. Way better at it then, mig, tig, and stick
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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as much as i would like a mig a inverter will do what i want/need for the moment also thinks to mnemonix for helping me out and loaning me his for a trial run
Phil
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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Ive got one of the new tradetools 180's. Yes its a cheap unit and everyone bags out on cheap units, but for what I do it works very well. It sticks metal to metal... has a euro fitting so gun replacement/liners are easy... and its pretty cheap.. no need to go spend $1000 on a big name brand with similar specs.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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jonno_racing wrote: as much as i would like a mig a inverter will do what i want/need for the moment also thinks to mnemonix for helping me out and loaning me his for a trial run  Phil
I don't understand why you keep saying you don't want a MIG, but an inverter will do the job.
The term 'Inverter' just refers to the power source. You can get inverter MMA, TIG and MIG
What you are asking about ( as far as I can tell) is Inverter MMA/TIG machines.
I have one of these for portable welding. Comes with MMA and TIG leads etc. All you'll need is a Reg and gas to use TIG. MMA is plug and play. I've got quite a few hours up on mine so far and it hasn't missed a beat.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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your right there pete.
yep i would love a mig, however $$$ is a thing and also a arc/tig will do what i want atm. i also want to do some tig work in the future.
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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jonno_racing wrote: your right there pete.
yep i would love a mig, however $$$ is a thing and also a arc/tig will do what i want atm. i also want to do some tig work in the future.
you do realise that tig requires a gas rental and is by far the most expensive and slowest form of welding besides oxy welding
so basicly you stuck with a arc welder
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:46 am |
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ajsr wrote: jonno_racing wrote: your right there pete.
yep i would love a mig, however $$$ is a thing and also a arc/tig will do what i want atm. i also want to do some tig work in the future. you do realise that tig requires a gas rental and is by far the most expensive and slowest form of welding besides oxy welding so basicly you stuck with a arc welder
you do realise that yes i have done some tig welding, and a few mates rent gas so i can loan a bottle for a weekend or what ever.
i can already fusion weld. i am just expanding my skill set. 
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banga
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 668 Location: sunshine coast
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do they have the right gas for what tig welding you want to do. and stainless you will need pure argon it doesnt like normal argon carbon dioxide mix like what most people have on their mig and argon is to expensive to waste. for not much more and you can get an inverter mig that will do tig welding as well it will also come with a tig torch and gas line and the mig gun is a euro fitting easy to swap.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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banga wrote: do they have the right gas for what tig welding you want to do. and stainless you will need pure argon it doesnt like normal argon carbon dioxide mix like what most people have on their mig and argon is to expensive to waste. for not much more and you can get an inverter mig that will do tig welding as well it will also come with a tig torch and gas line and the mig gun is a euro fitting easy to swap.
If Phil quadrippled his budget they may let him in the door to look at one of those machines.
I use pure Argon for SS TIG and Mild steel. I've never actually tried a Argon blend with mild steel while TIGing 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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Fatzook wrote: banga wrote: do they have the right gas for what tig welding you want to do. and stainless you will need pure argon it doesnt like normal argon carbon dioxide mix like what most people have on their mig and argon is to expensive to waste. for not much more and you can get an inverter mig that will do tig welding as well it will also come with a tig torch and gas line and the mig gun is a euro fitting easy to swap. If Phil quadrippled his budget they may let him in the door to look at one of those machines. I use pure Argon for SS TIG and Mild steel. I've never actually tried a Argon blend with mild steel while TIGing 
Ive been tiging with argo shield on mild lately it works ok , but then it works well with mig so there's no reason why it wouldnt.
I mig stainless with argoshield with good results as well.
but the more I get back into tig the more I remember how fucking slow and painfull it is 
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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ajsr wrote: but the more I get back into tig the more I remember how fucking slow and painfull it is 
but the end result (if done well) is so pretty
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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jonno_racing wrote: ajsr wrote: but the more I get back into tig the more I remember how fucking slow and painfull it is  but the end result (if done well) is so pretty
Who gives a shit. I know a few blokes that can run SERIOUSLY tidy beads, but a decent hit with the hammer shows the lack of penetration.
AJ, I'm doing more and more TIG these days. I find it therepeutic 
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ozsteve
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 8:51 am Posts: 381 Location: sunshine coast
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what does everyone think of gassless migs ive got the chance to buy a cheap just for small jobs around home and for car things like bars
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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ozsteve wrote: what does everyone think of gassless migs ive got the chance to buy a cheap just for small jobs around home and for car things like bars
Im not sure I can express my dislike for them here with out using words that will make children cry or get me banned
some of them do work reasonably well at sticking metal togther 
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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jonno_racing wrote: something like this? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Cigweld-Weld ... 35aeececc8i will be using it to build my camper trailer (frame etc, all the bigger stuff on the trailer, hitch etc, will be done with a bigger mig) and small jobs on the zook
I was given one of them at my last job, and it worked awesome. I was a forklift mechanic and mostly used it to repair load gaurds and weld hose brackets onto masts etc. Was good for around 5mm mild steel
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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ajsr wrote: ozsteve wrote: what does everyone think of gassless migs ive got the chance to buy a cheap just for small jobs around home and for car things like bars Im not sure I can express my dislike for them here with out using words that will make children cry or get me banned some of them do work reasonably well at sticking metal togther 
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banga
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 668 Location: sunshine coast
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Fatzook wrote: jonno_racing wrote: ajsr wrote: but the more I get back into tig the more I remember how fucking slow and painfull it is  but the end result (if done well) is so pretty Who gives a shit. I know a few blokes that can run SERIOUSLY tidy beads, but a decent hit with the hammer shows the lack of penetration. AJ, I'm doing more and more TIG these days. I find it therepeutic 
i love tig welding especially when wearing ear plugs no one else to bother you in your own little world i kinda really enjoy ally tig cause the end result looks sexy.
must of miss interpreted my post before i meant that i use pure argon for my tig welder and argosheild mix for my mig. you can tig weld stainless with argosheild mix but it really isnt fun to do very frustrating and not as nice weld quality.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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oh... here is my new tig.
used it as a arc the other day to shave my front diff and i have to say.. it was great!
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:09 am |
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after seeing the welds on your shaved diff I defineatly think a mig would have been a better buy 
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:28 am |
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ajsr wrote: after seeing the welds on your shaved diff I defineatly think a mig would have been a better buy 
lol
the welds are fine.. but thanks for asking 
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